The brake mechanisms of my car are worn out, don't play around with them. I thought about slowly changing the rear brakes, but after removing the front wheels I realized that the Khan discs have a ventilated disc thickness of 15.3 mm, with the minimum allowable being 17.8 mm. I’m not a racer, I ride on average 40-50 km a day. All wheels (summer and winter) are 13 inches and I don’t plan to switch to 14 wheels yet. So I choose brake discs of 13 radius, ventilated, but without perforation. So far I have found in the store: 1) Alnas - 680 rubles. 2) ATS - 750 rubles 3) VIS (Vazinterservice, AvtoVAZ) - the price is around the first two 4) LUCAS/TRW R13 VENT 4108 - but the price is 1320 rubles. 5) BRAKE DISCS AUTOREAL COMP 2PCS - 940r
I don’t know what to choose from the budget ones. And which pads are best suited to the selected discs (it’s easier with them, there is exist on the edge). What discs and pads do you recommend?
Depending on the configuration, the manufacturer equips Lada cars with different front brakes. We determine which brake discs AvtoVAZ installs on Priora, Granta and Kalina, what is the difference between the front brake mechanisms, and how to very easily improve the brakes without modifications.
Installation of brake pads and discs from a foreign car
Instead of original VAZ brake pads and brake discs, install consumables from a foreign car, for example:
- Brembo brake discs (article: 09.8903.75) or ATE Power Disc 14 (article: 24.0320-0142.1);
- pads from Fiat (article: 13.0460-2813.2) or BMW (article: 180281).
No modifications or design changes to the brake system are required. The maximum that may be required (for example, for pads from BMW) is to slightly file the caliper brackets.
How are these components better? The discs have an increased contact area of the pads, and the brake pads have an increased contact area (by about 25%). According to reviews from car enthusiasts, the installation of imported brake pads and discs had a positive effect on the performance of the braking system.
What kind of feedback can you leave about such a simple brake tuning? Is it worth switching from R13 to R14 brakes and abandoning original spare parts in favor of imported ones? Let us remind you that other useful tips for improving Lada cars can be found in the “Tuning” category. For example, you can significantly reduce noise in the cabin by installing additional door seals.
Serviceable brake discs of thickness specified by the manufacturer are the key to safety on the road. AvtoVAZ has equipped the Lada Granta with a reliable braking system. This allows you to reduce the likelihood of accidents and avoid emergencies on the road. But over time, the disc wears off and a bead appears on its surface. There is a need for replacement.
What should I buy to replace it?
The market sells ready-made brake kits for installing rear disc brakes on the Lada Granta - in this case, the car enthusiast will avoid various modifications and alterations.
And yet, what exactly should they sell you:
- Anther. – Brake disc, brake pads, caliper. – Parking brake mechanism. – Fastening elements. – Installation instructions. Warranty card. – Instructions with US or a certificate of a similar type, which confirms the compliance of the mechanisms with all established standards and gives the right to its legal installation.
What front brake discs should be installed on the Lada Granta
The front wheels of the Lada Granta are equipped with disc shoe brakes. What makes the pedal informative is that it makes it easy to calculate where to stop.
The power reserve with original parts can range from 50 to 120 thousand km. But sooner or later the need for replacement arises.
You can divide all supplied spare parts into two main categories: original and analogues. The former are more expensive. But at the same time, their maximum mileage is usually an order of magnitude greater than their analogues. There is multi-stage quality control in production. The downside is the high cost. Sometimes it is 2-3 times more than analogues.
You asked: What kind of brake discs are on the Kalina Cross?
Issue price: Front brake discs 2112 ventilated R14 (Euro-sport) (Almetyevsk) - 1900 rubles Front brake pads TRW GDB1446 - 680 rubles. Caliper brackets 2112 - 1200 rub. Total: 3780 rub.
Depending on the configuration, the manufacturer equips Lada cars with different front brakes. We determine which brake discs AvtoVAZ installs on Priora, Granta and Kalina, what is the difference between the front brake mechanisms, and how to very easily improve the brakes without modifications.
Aluminum brake drums
Now they are the most advanced. Why? Yes, they simply weigh little, and manufacturers are trying their best to lighten the weight of the car and, in particular, reduce the load on the axle.
Therefore, this material is now being used more and more often, what other advantages are there:
- As I already wrote, this is weight. Aluminum can weigh up to 50% less than the same cast iron version.
- Price. Not to say that they were cheaper just like that, after all, they are non-ferrous metal. But due to the mass, the difference in price is quite significant. About 30% cheaper.
- Cooling. This is really a big plus, we all know that during prolonged braking, say in the city, the discs and drums literally get hot. Aluminum conducts heat well, meaning it heats up quickly and cools down quickly. Therefore, drums made from it perfectly remove heat and cool quickly enough. Also, you can often see ribs on them, for even greater heat dissipation. It is worth noting that the more the drum heats up, the more effective the brakes decrease, and the pads simply begin to “float”. Cooling saves the situation and efficiency is maintained.
- Corrosion and aesthetic appearance. Yes, it should be noted that aluminum practically does not show any signs of rust or other decay. Thus, the outer and inner surfaces always remain clean. It is practical, and also aesthetically pleasing; there is no need to tint or maintain it. This is definitely a plus.
But this system also has disadvantages and they are also significant, let’s take it in order.
- The very first disadvantage is greater wear on the disc. Aluminum is a soft metal and therefore wears out quickly. You will change much more often than your opponent.
- They get very attached. This material sticks very strongly to the place of attachment, and it is not at all easy to remove them.
- Fragility. If you plan to remove them, then you must have special pullers, otherwise there is a high probability of breaking the drum, it is very fragile.
- With strong heating, after falling into a puddle, the geometry can change. What will affect the quality of braking?
To be honest, aluminum drums are not as durable a product as, say, cast iron. They really break very easily. Let’s say your rear wheel is stuck, the brake lining is torn off due to high wear, you won’t be able to just remove it and look inside, and if you hit it with a hammer, you’ll simply break the drum. In this regard, the opponent looks much more profitable.
So which is better?
What to choose in the end so as not to make a mistake? Guys, I’ll say that very few people now change aluminum to cast iron in drums or vice versa, most likely the replacement will be with disc brakes (they are really better), and ventilated or even perforated , it has been proven that with these the car brakes 15 - 20% more efficiently.
And the choice between these two, I personally would fall on cast iron, but it needs to be tinted, and it’s heavier, a pair is about 8-10 kilograms, but it’s more reliable and easier to remove. This is my personal opinion.
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Cast iron brake drums
Needless to say, this metal is much stronger, but also many times heavier than its opponent. Some manufacturers sacrifice suspension lightweighting and still install cast iron on their cars.
Original
The advantage is exact compliance with the specified dimensions. After purchasing the part, there is no need to adjust it to size or grind it down:
Name | vendor code | Cost per 1 piece, rubles |
AvtoVAZ | 11180-3501012-10 | From 2 thousand rubles |
Various manufacturers can be the manufacturer of original parts of this type for cars. But the products are labeled as AvtoVAZ. The quality is up to the mark. A special alloy of cast iron is used. It is allowed to use pads whose friction linings include ceramics.
Possible difficulties and subtleties
Let's return to the issue of interference in the design of the car in connection with the installation of rear disc brakes on the Lada Granta. Be sure to pay attention to the presence of all relevant certificates from the manufacturer confirming the quality and legality of installation of their products.
The brake system is an important component of the car, neglecting the quality of which is fraught with dire consequences! In addition, it is best to carry such a certificate with you in your car - in case a picky traffic police officer becomes interested in your modifications.
Some drivers have noted the presence of extraneous noise after installing new brakes. You shouldn’t immediately run to the workshop and quarrel with the technicians who installed new brakes or blame the kit manufacturer - as a rule, the pads and discs take some time to get used to. But if the noise and suspicious operation of the brakes does not stop after 700 km, we strongly recommend that you contact a specialized service station to diagnose a possible malfunction.
Remember that the money you pay for high-quality rear disc brakes on Grant is the price for the safety of your car, the health and well-being of the people around you. If you are not confident in your abilities or do not have the necessary tools, entrust the installation to professionals! Don't skimp on your safety.
Analogs
The selection of replacements for original parts includes several dozen items. The highest quality and relatively inexpensive are the following:
Name | vendor code | Cost, per 1 piece, rubles |
Alnas Sport, ventilated perforated | 2112-3501070-03 | From 1 thousand rubles |
Notched, “PowerDisc”ATE | 24.0320-0142.1 | From 1.5 thousand rubles |
BREMBO MAX | 09.8903.75 | From 1.2 thousand rubles |
What rear brake discs can be installed on the Lada Granta
Despite the fact that this car belongs to the budget class and is one of the cheapest among those sold in the Russian Federation, it is equipped with rear disc brakes. Which implies the need to replace individual components. The price of parts depends on their type, as well as other factors.
It is important to remember: the front and rear discs differ in the diameter of the mounting holes and other parameters. Installation can be done by yourself. The process itself is simple. But it requires some preparation. It is important to decide on a budget for parts in advance. All of them are divided into two main categories - analogues and originals. They differ in price and quality.
There are many types of discs. These are ventilated, with notches and various others. If the driver practices an aggressive driving style, then you should opt for ventilated models. They cool faster. They have more resources. The replacement process is no different from the others.
Rear of the car
When buying a used car, people are faced with problems such as clamping of one of the calipers and unstable operation of the hoses or pads. With a full diagnosis of the Lada, drivers will find out that the drum system works just as poorly, and it is better to replace it with rear disc brakes.
Other drivers resort to this solution for completely different reasons. The thing is that AvtoVAZ’s finished mass products may have many minor flaws, which, in principle, are easy to eliminate. However, if the HA is installed incorrectly, people may experience problems such as quickly wearing out the pads and clamping previously good calipers. In this case, complete elimination of the problem is required.
Such popular rear disc brakes as “ASTekhnika” are suitable for Lada Granta, Kalina or Priora with or without an anti-lock braking system. After drum discs are replaced with disc brakes (or even more so ventilated), the driver discovers the following number of advantages:
- he does not have to make extra efforts when stopping the car;
- the feeling that when braking the car bites or jams disappears partially or completely;
- braking distance is reduced by a significant distance;
- brake mechanisms (which is useful in emergency situations) operate much faster;
- the braking efficiency itself increases by at least a quarter;
- the stop is carried out with a uniform distribution along the axes;
- The disks themselves (especially ventilated ones) cool quickly;
- the working mechanism is reliable;
- maintenance is simpler and pad replacement is easier;
- eliminates the need to constantly tighten the cables;
- adjustment of the handbrake is no longer required due to self-tensioning mechanisms; often it only needs to be tightened once;
- Externally, disc brakes are more aesthetically pleasing.
That is, if the driver is tired because the handbrake needs to be constantly tightened, the braking distance (especially in winter) is too high, and the braking itself is carried out with rather unpleasant actions of the car, it is worth thinking about replacing the rear brakes and brake system components. Moreover, many enterprises engaged in the sale of shields, discs, hoses, cables, pads, plates and fasteners have PCT and NAMI certificates, which means that these brake components will serve not only efficiently, but also for a long time.
Typically, after installing disc brakes for several tens of thousands of kilometers, drivers do not experience any special problems with the braking system.
Note:
Analogs
The cost of original components is an order of magnitude higher than analogues. Therefore, the choice of many vehicle owners falls on substitutes. The most advantageous offers:
Name | vendor code | Cost, rubles |
A.S.P. | 2702220 | 2 thousand rubles. for 1 piece |
B.M. | BDV 885 | 1 thousand rubles for 1 piece. |
Hella | 8DD355109331 | 1.6 thousand rubles for 1 piece. |
Replacing front brake discs
The replacement algorithm includes the main steps:
- it is necessary to remove the wheel and jack up the car;
- the old brake pads are removed - to do this, the guide bolts are unscrewed and the caliper is folded back;
- The bracket is carefully hung on the suspension, after which you can begin to remove the disk - two nuts are unscrewed;
- if for some reason the disk cannot be removed from the bolts, you need to lightly hit it with a hammer from the reverse side;
- The new disk is carefully installed.
The nuts are screwed into place. It is advisable to pre-lubricate the threads with graphite lubricant. This will prevent souring. It is advisable to change the pads along with the discs.
Where and at what price to buy?
The modern auto parts market offers a wide range of spare parts in different price categories. What to expect if we want to buy rear disc brakes for a Grant? Prices start at 13,000 rubles and go up to 20,000 rubles.
Such components are offered by brands such as: Darbis, Tornado, Ast, etc. Each manufacturer has its own pricing policy. It is worth paying attention to the fact that in the assortment of each of the above listed companies, there are kits available that differ in price.
The price depends on the purpose of the kit for a car with or without ABS, one or two-piston caliper, the quality of the material from which the brake pads and disc are made, the presence of perforations on the disc and other technical nuances of a particular brake kit.
Replacing rear brake discs
The algorithm for replacing rear brake discs is as simple as the front ones. The process is similar. Its main stages:
- it is necessary to remove the wheel to gain access directly to the part - the car is raised on a jack or lift;
- the caliper is removed along with the pads - you can place it side by side or hang it on a spring;
- use an open-end wrench to unscrew two nuts;
- a new disk is installed.
Assembling the caliper, installing the pads - everything is done in the reverse order. It is necessary to ensure that the thickness of the brake disc corresponds to that specified by the manufacturer. If you have difficulty removing the pads, you need to press in the cylinder with a screwdriver. If difficulties arise with unscrewing threaded connections, you need to use WD-40.
Serviceable brake discs affect the driving comfort, vehicle speed and safety. It is necessary to carry out timely inspection and repair of the main components of the brake system.
Original articles
Front brake discs (catalog numbers)
:
- 21100-3501070-01 (8450055308) — Front brake disc R13
- 21100-3501070-02 (8450055309) — Front brake disc R13 (“Auto-Real” LLC, Miass)
- 21120-3501070-00 (8450102989) — Front brake disc R14
- 21120-3501070-01 (8450056449) — Front brake disc R14
- 21120-3501070-02 (8450056450) — Front brake disc R14 (“Auto-Real” LLC, Miass)
- 11186-3501070-00 — Front brake disc R15 Kalina Sport, Granta Sport
- 21905350107077 — Front brake disc R15 painted “Lada-Sport” LLC, Togliatti
Rear brake discs
:
- 11196-3502070-00 — Rear brake disc R14 Kalina Sport, Granta Sport
Kits
:
- 21100350107088 — Set of brake discs R13 in LADA SPORT packaging (“Auto-Real” LLC, Miass)
- 21120350107088 — Set of brake discs R14 in LADA SPORT packaging (“Auto-Real” LLC, Miass)