Self-replacement of engine mounts for Lada Vesta and X-Ray

February 12, 2016 Lada.Online 44 914 1
The power unit (motor with gearbox) is suspended on supports, which are also called engine mounts. Strong vibrations transmitted from the engine to the body indicate wear on these rubber parts. To prevent this negative effect from occurring, it is recommended to replace the engine mounts as they wear out.

This manual covers the replacement of VAZ 21129, VAZ 21179 and HR16 engine mounts installed on the Lada Vesta and XRAY models.

Replacing engine mounts for VAZ 21129 and HR16 (Lada Vesta and XRAY)

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The power unit (motor with gearbox) is suspended on supports, which are also called engine mounts. Strong vibrations transmitted from the engine to the body indicate wear on these rubber parts. To prevent this negative effect from occurring, it is recommended to replace the engine mounts as they wear out.

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This manual covers the replacement of VAZ 21129 and HR16 engine mounts installed on the Lada Vesta and XRAY models.

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Hydromount from BMW

1. First version Stage 1

Engine mount 2495601 from BMW 3 (E46) was taken as a basis. The price is about 2800 rubles.

The peculiarity of the support is that it is hydraulic (the design uses not only metal and rubber, but also oil).

a) at idle, soft support: b) in motion, hard support: 1 – lower (expansion) chamber; 2 – throttling channel; 3 – upper (working) chamber; 4 – movable membrane; 5 – hydraulic support housing; 6 – damping fluid channel.

The difference between a hydraulic and standard support is demonstrated in the video:

The weight of the pillow is 1.76 kg.

Price:

5300 rub. (the LEMFORDER 2495601 support itself costs about 2800 rubles).

2. Modified version of Stage 2.

The hydraulic mount itself is essentially the same thing with the addition of a guitar of the same manufacturer. Due to this, we managed to save some money, so the price increased only for the silent block itself.

Silent block from jikiu be21058, there are no analogues.

Buy

: withdrawn from sale.

How to check engine mounts

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You can visually assess the condition of the pillows. If the rubber elements are torn, cracked or deformed, then it’s time to replace the supports. Fatigue cracks in metal elements are also a sign of a faulty engine mount.

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Signs of tired engine mounts:

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• Vibrations appeared during engine operation;

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• Knocks appeared when suddenly starting from a stop or when braking the engine;

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• There was a dull hum in the cabin.

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Replacing the left engine mount

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The left support is attached to the side member with four bolts. The support is attached to the gearbox bracket with two bolts. The bracket itself is secured to the gearbox housing with three bolts. Access to the left airbag is blocked by the battery shelf, engine crankcase protection and air filter bracket; these parts will need to be removed.

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Place a jack under the gearbox and lift it slightly, unloading the left support. Then:

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1. Unscrew the four bolts securing the support to the body using a 16mm wrench (No. 2);

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2. Unscrew the two bolts securing the support to the gearbox bracket (No. 1), 18mm wrench.

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3. Remove the left engine mount.

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Replacement of the left engine mount VAZ 21129

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Installation of the new support is carried out in the reverse order. We tighten the bolts (No. 1) from 90-120 Nm, and the bolts (No. 2) - 53-71 Nm.

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Problem

As sad as it is to realize, West owners are not spared this problem either. Many owners notice knocking noises under the hood of the Lada Vesta, and they come from the right side.

As a rule, you don’t have to search for long, since the situation is well known. It appears on sedans that were equipped with engine mounts from the VAZ 21129. As a result, a whole cacophony of sounds began to be heard from the engine compartment, including knocks, clicks, squeaks, etc. Moreover, these sounds are so loud that they can be heard even in the cabin.

The knock from the support is quite loud

And the best confirmation of this is numerous videos in which owners of the domestic model demonstrate trouble.

And in this video you can hear knocks directly inside the car.

In addition, some owners began to “dig deeper” and found out that a similar situation occurs not only on Vesta, but also on other models of the Renault-Nissan Alliance. In particular, on the Nissan Qashqai. This is also confirmed in the video.

As for the Lada X-Ray, the hatchback has not noticed such a problem, even though its engines are the same as those on the sedan. The whole point is that X-Ray is equipped with different supports for the power unit.

Replacing the right engine mount

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The right cushion is attached to the side member with two bolts, and three bolts to the engine. Remove the engine splash guard and raise the right side of the engine using a jack. Then:

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1. Unscrew the two bolts (No. 2) securing the support to the body, the key is “16”;

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2. Unscrew the two bolts (No. 1) securing the support to the engine bracket, TORX E12 wrench;

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3. Remove the right engine mount.

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Replacement of the right engine mount VAZ 21129

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Installation in reverse order, tighten the bolts to 53-71 Nm. The right engine mount HR16 has a different design:

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Replacing the right engine mount Renault HR16

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Manufacturers and prices of analogues

The cushions for Lada Vesta engines are considered by owners to be not particularly reliable and are even being modified to increase the effect of vibration absorption.

The TuningProsto studio is developing improved spare parts from AvtoVAZ, including a recent development - an engine mount. Their price will be on average 3,000 rubles, orders are still being accepted. The tests were successful, and on a car dealer's car intended for a test drive - the car is used very often.

Otherwise, there are no special attempts to create analogues, because the “craftsmen” have already drawn the attention of Vest owners to two modification options:

• Came from Renault owners. It is necessary to create for each problematic pillow a metal plate 80 mm long, 38 mm wide and two grooves on the sides measuring 23 mm wide and 38 mm deep. The funny thing is that the X-Ray, which is in many ways similar to the Vesta, has the same engine (21129), but there are no problems with the upper right support - it’s just different.
• If the part itself is still intact, it can be lubricated with silicone grease where the rubber hits the metal body.

Engine Lada Vesta

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