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How to choose a clutch for a VAZ according to your driving style

When choosing a clutch, you need to take into account your driving style.

Calm driving style - low revs, smooth shifts, not harsh acceleration. Suitable kits from manufacturers:

Luk - gears shift smoothly, no jerking.
Valeo - soft clutch for a comfortable ride.

Most motorists drive at medium speeds, occasionally accelerating in traffic. The style is standard. Suitable mechanism from manufacturers:

KraftTech - a coupling for comfortable movement.
Sachs - a tighter device than previous options, suitable for many drivers.
“VIS” is a domestically produced system, manufactured with high quality, and does not tolerate sudden movements.

With a dynamic driving style, sharp shifts and “throwing” of the clutch pedal are possible. The coupling experiences heavy loads, the following kits are suitable:

Pilenga - recommended without metal ceramics. The clutch is hard, to avoid jerking you need to pick up high speeds and shift quickly.
Sachs - suitable for many.

Some motorists prefer a sporty driving style when the mechanism is under stress. The same kits are suitable as for the dynamic style. The clutch will have to be changed more often.

Attention! A sporty driving style is undesirable; frequent high speeds wear out many elements of the car.

When choosing a coupling, you need to take into account factors: cost, compatibility of the kit with the vehicle model, and operating features of the machine.

Among owners of VAZ cars, it is common to install the entire Sachs kit, except for the release bearing, which is replaced with a factory one.

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1 Topic by AlexeyG 2008-12-24 19:42:22 (2009-03-13 11:50:07 edited by maniboo)

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Topic: Clutch selection

It looks like the clutch is about to be replaced, there is a dip in 4th gear, periodically slips in 2nd, sometimes with interference on. transfers. I drive calmly and handle the clutch gently.

I don’t want to buy the factory kit, the reviews are not flattering about it.

A choice arose - to supply a cheaper kit - KRAFTTECH, or Valeo, LUK or SACHS.

I read a lot of reviews on the Internet, some say that the craft is a city, but it doesn’t go much in the region of 10-50 thousand km, some just squeak from it, about Valeo and other reviews are better, but you can easily run into a fake.

As I understand, the main problem with all current clutches is the release clutch.

And somehow 50 thousand is not enough for a clutch, although it is not known how the people who write about it drive.

Who will say what, who changed it, who installed what?

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They say SAX has good grip. Just be careful not to look at a fake. My car now has Kraft. Mostly I drive calmly, but sometimes I let the car go to shit. Once I set it on fire a little when I was dragging the “herring” up the mountain. The engine couldn't handle it and I had to play with the clutch a little. I don’t know how long the old owner drove it. I skated 50 thousand on it and have not yet found any signs of death.

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Craft - woof** +1. A friend put it on drain and it still spits.

Sachs (mine) - Very soft pedal - in traffic jams it’s just super, when compared with the same craft and VIS. But during dynamic driving it smells a little. It cost about 55 thousand. So far it’s normal, I think it’s enough for another 15 safely.

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Rating of the TOP 8 best clutches for VAZ

Among the wide range of clutch kits, we can highlight the most popular and high-quality ones.

Valeo

The leader in the question of which clutch is best to install on a VAZ is the product from Valeo, which is valued among motorists for its reliability, quality, and service life.

The product is more expensive than competitors, which is explained by good performance. Average mileage is 120 thousand km. Often the mechanism remains operational up to 200,000 kilometers. The disk can withstand severe overheating without breaking.

The safety factor of the set is 6000 rpm. The device works normally at 9 thousand. This indicator is important for owners of modified models.

The average cost of a kit for a VAZ-2114 and other models is 7-8 thousand rubles.

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Let's summarize

From the above, we can conclude that the operation of replacing the release bearing of a VAZ 2113-2115 is not as labor-intensive as it might seem at first glance. The most important thing is to follow the above instructions and master all the listed tools.

If you doubt your abilities, it is better to entrust the work to professionals. The price for replacing a release bearing for a VAZ 2113-2115 is from 2000 to 3500 rubles. The price for the work is the same as for replacing the entire clutch.

The process of replacing the release bearing of a VAZ 2113-2115 is clearly shown in these videos:

VAZ 2109: which clutch to choose and how to do it yourself

Today are no longer the days when the necessary part could only be found from a speculator, purchased at exorbitant prices on the market or through great connections. Then there was more confidence that the quality of the spare part would be 100 percent. Now there are a lot of different clutch kits for the VAZ 2109. “Which clutch to choose?” - this question is becoming more relevant than before. It is noteworthy that on a VAZ 2109 you can determine which clutch is better yourself.

VAZ 2109 when to change the clutch

On the modern market there are copies from different manufacturers, both domestic and foreign, which makes it more difficult to choose truly high-quality clutch discs.

Note! Statistics show that most pressure and driven disks sold in markets and stores are of dubious quality, and sometimes you can even stumble upon counterfeits.

So, which clutch is better to buy and how not to make a mistake in your choice? First you need to figure out what today's manufacturers offer:

Firstly, this is a factory VIS clutch, also called “stock”. In principle, the product is not bad, it is supplied by the AVTOVAZ plant itself for assembling cars. It is not difficult to distinguish an original clutch from a fake; you just need to check the presence of laser markings applied to the discs themselves. In addition, you can send an SMS with an identification code and receive a response message confirming its uniqueness and quality.

VAZ 2109 clutch kit

Secondly, there is an imported line of products, this includes VALEO, LUK, SACHS and KRAFT clutches. Among such a variety, the buyer has to make a difficult choice. When choosing, it is not recommended to rely on beautiful packaging and name, since a primitive Chinese counterfeit of a certain brand may be sold.

Peculiarities

Clutch discs Valeo PHC, 832. 160. 801502 and other models have been produced for over 80 years. Valeo kits, produced by a company from Paris, are sometimes called “women’s” because their use provides softness during gear shifting and braking, as well as a smooth ride.

The manufacturer's products are characterized by a high service life. If no errors are made during installation of the kit, the service life of the system will be 150 thousand kilometers. During intensive use, Valeo clutches do not overheat.

Main advantages:

The latest technologies are used in the manufacture of clutch systems, which ultimately results in a high-quality, research-proven product.
Due to the high quality of the part, its use is allowed during the factory assembly of the vehicle.
The product comes with detailed instructions for installing the clutch. It details not only the steps that the car owner must follow, but also shows photographs.

User Boroda73rus talked about original Valeo clutches in his video.

TOP 7 best clutches for VAZ (Lada)

The modern market is filled with automotive products from different companies and manufacturers. In such a situation, it is difficult to determine which clutch is best to install on a VAZ. Among the abundance of offers, there are a large number of fakes or not very successful solutions. The following problems can result from a selection error:

unpredictable pedal behavior;
a more severe reaction to driver manipulations;
complexity of installation;
knocking out of gear during acceleration;
rapid disc wear;
increased vibration.

Only the most common problems that arise when making the wrong choice or buying a fake are described here.

Luk VS Valeo: service life

The uninterrupted operation life of any high-quality clutch should be approximately 100,000 kilometers of standard (average) driving. Luk and Valeo “fit” into this framework without any problems thanks to excellent materials that withstand mechanical wear, friction and temperature “attacks” with honor. In addition, we can note that Valeo clutch discs are not only made of durable alloys, but also heat-treated, which prevents overheating, deformation and premature destruction.

And again, returning to the statistics: Valeo clutch parts on average “live” up to 150,000 kilometers, and the flywheel, with careful driving, can last forever.

How to choose the right one

Competent selection in 2022 begins with studying manufacturers’ offers. Knowing several factors will help determine which clutch is best installed on a VAZ.

Precise car modification. The configuration of the clutch kit and its physical parameters depend on the type of car.
Estimated price range. Depending on the desired cost, the user can navigate by company. The final price tag is considered an important factor - you shouldn’t count on the cheapest model.
Method of operating the machine. With moderate driving under normal conditions, even simple modifications to the disc and drives will last quite a long time. If the car is used in racing mode or under critical overloads with frequent switching (this also includes training cars), you should buy high-quality products with a large margin of safety.

Peculiarities

The latest technologies are used in the manufacture of clutch systems, which ultimately results in a high-quality, research-proven product.
Due to the high quality of the part, its use is allowed during the factory assembly of the vehicle.
The product comes with detailed instructions for installing the clutch. It details not only the steps that the car owner must follow, but also shows photographs.

User Boroda73rus talked about original Valeo clutches in his video.

VAZ clutch rating

Existing offers on the market can be divided into several groups. The best manufacturers and modifications of VAZ clutches are presented below.

7th place: STARCO

The ranking of the best market offers opens with a company that is a product that combines the developments of engineers from the USA and Turkey.
In principle, the company is represented on the Russian market as a Turkish brand, but technological developments have been collected from all over the world. Such a symbiosis ensures sufficient reliability, high quality indicators and reasonable cost, which attracts a large number of domestic motorists. Initially, the company was organized in 2005 as a result of the signing of an agreement between several brands located in Germany, Turkey and the USA. At the beginning of its work, the company produced a rather meager range of parts, which scared off buyers. As of 2022, the brand’s range has expanded to 7,000 items. Among other things, the brand has 2,000 models of clutch kits ready for installation.

The manufacturer is focused more on trucks. The choice of passenger modifications is scant, but you can buy a clutch at a VAZ.

sufficiently strong clutch baskets can withstand inept operation;
moderate cost;
sufficient quality of packaging;
The friction pads are protected against counterfeiting.

The clutch disc wears out quickly;
friction linings quickly become loose or fly off the rivets;
damper springs of insufficient quality quickly sag or break;
The release bearing begins to whistle almost immediately after installation.

6th place: AMD

The next representative of the ranking comes from Asia.
The brand is organized by Japanese corporations to create consumables for their own cars. Thanks to a competent approach, the organization managed to achieve wide distribution of products far beyond the continent. After updating the assortment, parts for domestic cars appeared here - clutch kits, bearings, filters, etc. The main advantage of the company is that its work is as simple and clear as possible - the buyer can order parts through an online store without waiting for an order in physical retail outlets. Among the disadvantages, the possibility of running into a low-quality product is considered a significant drawback. The manufacturer has several production sites in South Korea, China and Taiwan. The most negative thing is that in the package the motorist can receive a low-grade product from the Middle Kingdom with the poorest durability. However, on the other hand, the part may also come from Japan - the kit will serve for a long time and will be worth the money invested. As a result, this gives rise to many conflicting reviews among domestic buyers.

gears are easily engaged;
there are no extraneous sounds during operation;
excellent disc geometry;
optimal cost;
available on the Internet.

Some production sites are located in China;
a lot of conflicting reviews.

5th place: SACHS

You can also choose the best clutch for a VAZ from a German manufacturer.
The company is a real old-timer; its history began back in 1987. Initially, the company acted as the main supplier of consumables for Formula 1 competitions around the world. The next important step was the change in production rights. The ZF brand bought the organization and since then parts have been supplied to 80% of serial German-made machines, which guarantees a high level of quality and reliability. The manufacturer claims that the moment the car takes off is adjusted to racing cars. In other words, the car starts moving earlier than usual. Consequently, there is no need to keep the pedal clamped, which reduces wear on the friction linings.

Users praise the excellent geometry of the disc and basket. Thanks to this, they do not need to be ground in - normal operation begins immediately after installation.

The company was included in the rating due to its high degree of protection against counterfeiting. At the factory, parts are packaged in a branded box, where the serial number of the part is duplicated. There is also a special tape with a holographic coating. The company’s work exclusively with official dealers stands out separately. Strict control of points of sale and prices guarantees sufficient copy protection. Thanks to the incoming parameters, the buyer can quickly identify a factory part and determine that it has not been used previously.

Advantages:

reliable design does not break quickly;
torque is transmitted as smoothly as possible;
there is no need to overpress the pedal - it is designed for racing mode;
smooth linings do not require grinding in;
high-quality packaging prevents parts from rusting during long-term storage.

the complete set is quite expensive;
Despite the efforts of the manufacturer, there are a large number of fakes.

4th place: LUK

If you have a question about what kind of clutch to install on a VAZ, you can contact a renowned company that is widespread throughout the CIS countries. The wide popularity of the brand is due to several technological solutions and sufficient production quality. A special feature of clutch kits is the presence of narrow petals on the basket, which makes it much easier to press the pedal. A similar plus is relevant for classics and some modern versions. Therefore, if you have a question about which clutch is better to install on the VAZ 2109 and older models, you can safely buy products from the specified brand.

Choosing a clutch kit for a car: Luk, Kraft or Valeo

Good day, dear motorists! Do you know what the most thankless task is? Right. Evaluate and compare. Especially among motorists. After all, it is known that the saying “who studied what” is especially strong among drivers.

Some people like Mercedes, while others like Moskvich. Moreover, in both cases, adherents of a particular part, company, brand will find a million arguments in their favor.

That is why we will not compare and say which clutch is better: Kraft, Valio or Luk. It's a matter of habit. Some drivers like a soft clutch, while others like a car with an automatic transmission in which the driver has no idea why the clutch pedal even exists.

In any case, you will choose a clutch without paying attention to anyone’s advice, but guided by your personal experience of using this or that clutch. And our review of the most common brands of automobile clutches will simply give you food for thought.

And you decide for yourself which clutch is better: Kraft, Valio or Luk. Naturally, after you try all three brands.

VALEO clutch – greetings from France or Korea

In general, it is difficult for high-quality automobile parts to survive in the Russian car market. There are too many people who want to fake them. This cup has not passed and the Valio brand has not passed away.

A counterfeit Valio clutch kit is, in principle, easy to track due to the low cost and quality of the components. Today on the market you can find Valio clutches and components from France, Italy, Spain and South Korea. Less from France.

Those motorists who have used the Valio clutch leave the most positive and kind reviews about it. The Valeo clutch is also called a “female” clutch because of its softness and smoothness.

At the same time, reliability and long service life are simply excellent in its market segment. With proper and competent use of the Valeo clutch, it lasts up to 150 thousand km. mileage The Valeo clutch disc is not afraid of overheating (within the permissible limits). The flywheel is practically eternal.

Luk clutch – with German meticulousness and quality

It is impossible to say how true the statistical information is, but it does exist. And it says the following: today the Luk clutch kit is installed on every 2nd car of the German automobile industry, and 4th car of the global automobile industry.

We won’t argue, maybe that’s true. Especially if you take into account the eternal marketing formula: price-quality, then the Luk clutch fits perfectly into it.

A distinctive characteristic of the LUK clutch, and reviews from Russian motorists confirm this, is the vibration damping characteristic of the clutch mechanism. The fact is that Luk clutches include a vibration damper for the driven disc and pressure plate.

Kraft clutch: we need it. Turkish coast

About the Kraft clutch, reviews from motorists are absolutely excellent. For the Russian car market, Kraft clutch kits are supplied from Turkish production, operating under a Kraft license (Germany). Common practice in the global economy.

Our motorists have not been paying attention to these nuances for a long time. Moreover, the Kraft clutch has rightfully won the hearts of Russian car enthusiasts

The Kraft clutch is characterized by: soft release, resistance to overheating in intensive operation, long service life of the flywheel. The average clutch service life is 150 thousand km.

As a minus, drivers note the fragility of the release bearing. But in this case, a lot depends on the driver and his driving style.

Kraft brand clutches have firmly and for a long time occupied their niche in the Russian car market: excellent quality combined with the budget cost of the clutch kit, making it a rated clutch among specialists.

Here, perhaps, is all the overview information about the types of clutches that are relevant today. The choice is yours, and it is up to you to decide for yourself which clutch is better: Valeo, Kraft or Luk. Good luck in the difficult choice of the best of the best.