Lada Kalina does not start when the battery is charged

When I bought the car, I immediately noticed that the revs were floating at XX. Since the car as a whole is very good and inexpensive, I decided to take it with this problem. It runs well on the highway and runs fine at revs. Now attention! Car 1.6 8 cl. E-GAS. mileage 60 thousand. In the morning it starts 3-4 times

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It starts and stalls. Then I press the gas and it seems fine. DVT, CANDLES, WIRES, new. If it starts and runs for a while, it starts up normally, but the starter still turns 2-3 turns. Doesn't work smoothly at idle!
I connected the ELM-327 - misfires occur. then in 1, then in 2, then in 3, then in 4. But more in cylinder 1... I warmed up the car to 90 degrees, and the misfires almost disappeared. Well, one or two will slip by, every 3-5 minutes. If the temperature is 60-70 degrees, then gaps constantly flash. What to do? Is this a valve? There is no camshaft sensor on this car. I did not measure the pressure in the fuel rail.

Addition ! Cleaned the injectors and remote control. The injectors were purged with ABRO liquid for cleaning carburetors. I removed the throttle and doused it all with this liquid. one place shines like a cat's) Result. It started the first time, but it still cranked for about two seconds, they suggested that this is a feature of gas - there is no phase sensor and because of this it cranks longer. the gaps became much smaller, but they remained. I'll clean the injectors again when it gets warmer. So we can say the problem is solved.

Kalina won't start, what should I check?

Usually all troubles do not come at once.

Until the Kalina stops starting, there will be unstable engine operation and starting problems. It happens that the starter turns, but the engine does not respond at all.

In this case, you should first look at the Kalina package. Namely, for the presence of an alarm and immobilizer.

Anti-theft systems of any car, including Kalina, sometimes turn against their owner. Triggering the alarm allows the starter to turn, but opens the ignition circuit. As a result, the sparking process does not occur. How to determine if the anti-theft system is faulty:

  • All car alarms are equipped with an LED indicator. If you try to turn the engine with the starter, and the diode at this time shows an alarm state, then the spark does not enter the cylinders. Consequently, all attempts to start Kalina will not be successful.
  • Kalina's immobilizer has a status indicator lamp. If there is a key in the ignition, this lamp should go out. Otherwise, the key is faulty. Only a spare can save you.

The starter turns - to no avail?

The car is needed urgently and there is no way to take it for diagnostics. We analyze all possible faults.

We also need to remember that Kalina is a modern car and it has an electronic control unit that is responsible for the operation of all systems. In particular, there is a crankshaft position sensor on the drive pulley.

The signal from it goes to the ECU. If there is a short circuit in the sensor, the control unit prevents the engine from starting.

Remove and check the sensor using a tester. If it is faulty, then turn it off and try to turn the engine with the starter. True, when working without a position sensor, “CHECK ENGINE” will pop up on the dashboard. But if this is not the main thing for you, and the main thing is to start Kalina as quickly as possible and go about your business, then this is the best option.

Another malfunction that allows the starter to spin, but does not allow the engine to start. The most common problem in cars starting from the tenth family is the failure of the ignition module. But it rarely breaks without any prerequisites.

Pay attention to how your Kalina behaved in the last days before the breakdown. If the engine was troubled before, then most likely the fault lies in the module. It can be repaired, but few people take on it.

Therefore, the best option is to replace the ignition module on Kalina.

If the Lada Kalina does not start, then it is likely that the problem is in the immobilizer. Even an inexperienced car owner can notice it. If it blinks or starts beeping, it means it is clearly faulty. It is very difficult to fix the problem yourself, there are many nuances and features, so you need to contact specialists.

A broken timing belt is the most serious problem due to which the Lada Kalina may not start. You can’t do this without the qualified help of craftsmen.

Low quality gasoline also affects engine performance. Candles can be filled with low-quality gasoline and become unusable. In winter, condensation often forms and clogs the coarse filter. To solve the problem, it is enough to add pure alcohol to the fuel from time to time.

It is advisable to always refuel your car at large gas stations where high-quality fuel is available, otherwise you will regularly face the problem when the vehicle will not start after several attempts. If the fuel pump does not pump, then the problem is not only in the gasoline, but also in the device itself.

You need to make sure whether it is working or not.

To summarize, we note that the Lada Kalina may not start for absolutely different reasons. The problem is not always in the engine. Most breakdowns can be fixed by yourself if you understand the problem. But it is better to entrust such matters to masters who have the appropriate knowledge, experience and capabilities.

It happens that the Lada Kalina does not want to start when the starter is working. What to do in this case, and where to look for the problem? In this article we will look at exactly these problems that often ruin the lives of motorists.

What to do if you cannot start the Lada Kalina engine when the starter is turning

If we consider the issue from the technical service side, they will immediately say that the immobilizer has failed, but everything is not so simple. It may be not only about the security robot, but also about other things.

So, it is worth considering the main reasons for this malfunction:

All these reasons will lead to the fact that the engine will not start, but the starter will turn.

Does not start? Let's consider elimination methods

So, it’s worth sequentially looking at the actions that will help normalize the operation of the motor. But before that, you should prepare. So, what tools will be useful: a tester, a set of keys and wrenches.

Now that you are armed with everything you need, you can get to work:

If none of the checks yielded results, then you should prepare for the worst.

The main culprits of the engine not starting

So what to do if Kalina does not start and does not turn the starter? There are many reasons. Some problems can be fixed on your own, while others can only be fixed at specialized service stations.

Immobilizer

Not all Kalinas have the immobilizer activated from the factory, but you can disable it if you are afraid of its glitches. If you do not have it activated, then this problem should not affect you.

This may be the first reason why the car won't start. You can fix it yourself. If the immobilizer starts blinking, then in order to understand the specific cause of the malfunction you need to sit down and read the manual: what each light means, as well as the frequency of flashes and buzzers. In the cold season, the car can only be started after 5-6 times.

The photo shows a red key for clarity. The red block in the photo is a memory element for the immobilizer; it can become out of sync or break.

This problem can be solved by reflashing the key.

Starter

In the case when the previous system is in good condition, another reason why the car does not start may be the starter. Only a deaf person would fail to notice that this unit is not working.

Starter under the hood of Kalina. Check the power to the starter, circled in red.

If the starter does not make any sounds when turning the ignition key, the battery may also be discharged. When, after checking the starter relay and, if necessary, recharging the battery, the starter does not spin, then most likely it is not working.

There may be a breakdown in the unit itself or in the wiring. To check whether voltage is being supplied to the starter, you need to use a voltmeter. After connecting to the car network, it should have 12-14 volts. Cleaning the contacts will also help here.

If this does not help, then you should go to a service station.

Control unit (ECU)

This is also a common reason why the engine will not start. Usually, if you don't touch it, there are no problems with it. Often the unit can fail when it is flooded with water. This is a design flaw, or rather a flaw in the location of the ECU (a known problem with Kalin).

The ECU in Kalina is located at the bottom; due to leaks during rain, it can easily be flooded with water

In this case, the block will have to be replaced completely. To protect yourself, you should insulate it well or move it to another place under the hood. You cannot wrap the block in polyethylene, as it will fail due to condensation.

Candles

Condition of the candles in the photo

They are usually flooded in the cold season. This can also happen when the battery is weak. In this case, you need to dry the candles. They can be cleaned from carbon deposits with a toothbrush. The gap should also be kept within 0.8-1 millimeter. You can also use a hairdryer. If you have spare spark plugs, you can replace them.

Fuel

It can also be the reason why the engine will not start. To protect yourself from low-quality fuel, you need to refuel your car only at time-tested gas stations.

Fuel pump and relay

The fuel pump is universal and fits all models of the VAZ family.

If the engine does not start when the starter cranks the engine, then the cause may be the fuel pump and it needs to be replaced. You need to open the hood and find the cap to the left of the injectors. When you press it, gasoline should spray out. When gasoline enters the engine, it is not the fuel pump. The relay may fail.

Electrics

The last reason why such a malfunction may occur is electrical parts and circuits. So, the problem may lie in the starter, electronic control unit or wiring. We discard the main cause of the battery, because if it is dead, then the car will not start the second time. Let's consider all the reasons separately.

Starter

Problems in the operation and failure of the elements of this unit can cause a poor start.

So, a failure of the solenoid relay or bendix may cause the Kalina to not start the first time. Also, it is worth checking the wires, which can oxidize and skip contacts every once in a while.


Starter device

Wiring

Breakdowns and problems in the wiring can cause the car to not start the first time. So, you should look for a problem between the battery terminals and the starter, as well as the ignition coil and spark plugs.


Carbon deposits on spark plugs can cause poor engine starting.

ECU

The electronic control unit can be the main reason why the car does not want to start the first time. Thus, a large number of errors can lead to the issuance of incorrect commands. For example, incorrect amount of fuel distributed or mixture enrichment. It’s worth getting into the ECU after the fuel system, ignition and starter have been checked. The cause is eliminated by resetting errors or changing the firmware.


Electronic control unit errors

Main reasons

The engine does not start the first time

Kalina has a fairly common reason that it does not start the first time. This is due to design, wear and tear and electrical issues. But, it is worth breaking the problems into categories and considering them in more detail. So, let's look at the main categories into which this malfunction is divided:

  • Problem with the fuel system.
  • The reason is the ignition.
  • Failure of timing elements.
  • The problem is in the operation of electrical circuits and the ECU.

When everything is sorted out into the causes, it is worth considering them in more detail and how to eliminate them on the car.

Fuel system

The first reason that a car may not start the first time is the fuel system. Insufficient fuel or too much gasoline becomes a problem. In this case, the starter turns, but starting is difficult. If the starter does not turn and the immobilizer icon is flashing, then the problem is already on the immobilizer side.

Fuel pump wear

A failure of the fuel pump or a clogged fuel filter can cause the pressure in the fuel line to be insufficient and the mixture to be lean. Accordingly, the small amount of fuel in the combustion chambers is not enough to start the engine. If too much fuel mixture is supplied, the spark plugs are simply thrown and there is no spark to ignite, which causes the engine to not start.

Ignition

The second reason for poor starting is a malfunction of the ignition system. The problem may lie in the following nodes:

  • Ignition switch malfunction.
  • Breakdown in high-voltage wires.
  • Spark plugs are worn out or dirty.

When considering the problem, it is necessary, first of all, to pay attention to the spark plugs, clean them and adjust the gaps using a feeler gauge.

Next, you need to check the ignition wires, resistance and insulation damage. If necessary, it is worth replacing failed products.

Gas distribution mechanism

More than once in the manuals it is found that the start-up is not the first time due to incorrect operation of the gas distribution mechanism. Initially, this is due to carbon deposits that appear on the valves, and additionally due to incorrect operation of the gas dispersion phases. The malfunction should be found in the camshafts, and of course the position of the crankshaft relative to the camshaft.

The next prerequisite will be wear of the timing belt and pulley. A stretched belt can disrupt valve timing. It is worth checking and, if desired, installing a new timing belt repair kit.

Reasons why a car won't start

It also happens: the immobilizer is silent, does not give any sound or color signals, but the Lada Kalina still does not start. The cause may be problems with the starter. It is even easier to recognize a failure of this device than an immobilizer. If everything is fine with the starter, when you start the engine you will always hear a healthy, peaceful rumbling of the engine. There will be no sound when the starter stalls.

How to remove a broken starter

Starter operation may be affected by a discharged battery. You can understand this by looking at the instrument panel - not a single light on it will be lit. If the lights are on, you need to check a simple test: turn on the high beam headlights and see how they burn. A dim glow confirms our guess; in this case, the battery should be recharged. Good headlights dispel all doubts in this regard.

But it also happens differently: for the first twenty seconds the headlights burn perfectly, brightly, and then they slowly begin to go out, like a burning candle. This is a bad sign, you will have to tinker. In this case, either the starter itself or the wiring has failed. The wiring is checked with a voltmeter; people call this device “tseshka”. Do not forget that the wires are connected as necessary, but in a strict order: red - to the starter contact, black - to the car body. The norm is considered to be from 12.5 to 14.5 W.

A lower figure indicates serious problems with the wiring. To solve them, you need to clean the contacts, inspect the fuses and wires, in case there is a break or burnt areas somewhere. If these emergency methods do not help and the car does not start again, you will have to somehow get it to the workshop. There is special equipment that will determine the causes of the breakdown in a matter of minutes.

Checking the wiring operation

There is, of course, a radical method, which is better to resort to in the most extreme cases, for example, when the car stalled somewhere in the middle of the road, far from the city. The method is called “pusher,” but there is one caveat: you need to find two or three strong guys who will agree to help a little and push the car.

In order for the engine to fire, the starter contact must be closed directly, for which the car is placed in neutral gear, or better yet, the handbrake. Having done this tricky manipulation, turn on the ignition and conduct current from any wire with the “+” sign to the starter. The main requirement for the wire is the presence of voltage, which can be borrowed from the battery (“+” to the starter, and “-” to ground) or from the lights. When the current begins to act on the starter, it starts to move and spins the motor shaft. The car wakes up from hibernation and comes to its senses for a while. But even if the car starts up this way, don’t rush to rejoice. This is only a one-time procedure, after which the car must be taken to a service station, otherwise the repair will cost you a pretty penny.

Starter

The immobilizer has been checked and does not give any alarms, but the engine still does not want to start. Another reason for this behavior is the starter. It is easy to notice a problem with the starter - you will not hear the characteristic sound of the engine starting. The mechanism simply does not spin, which means the engine will not be able to start. Everything is clear here - you need to remove and check the starter.

If the Kalina does not start, the first reason may be the battery. It may simply be discharged. If the lights in the cabin and on the dashboard are not lit, the driver will be able to immediately notice this. However, it often happens that everything is in order, but the starter still does not work. For diagnostics, turn on the high beams and get out of the car. Dim headlights are due to the battery. It is discharged, but only to a critical level, when there is not enough power to turn the starter.

If the Kalina does not start, the starter does not turn, the best way out of this situation is to charge the battery. But if the headlights are bright in high beam mode and are not going to dim, then you will have to look for the reason elsewhere.

Spark plug

If everything is in order with the electronic filling, you should look for the problem in the candles. Often, and especially in winter, it floods.

Compression in the engine in cold weather does not meet the standards, so the engine may not start immediately. Often flooding of spark plugs occurs due to a discharged battery, which is unable to produce a normal spark. If not, the reasons may also be in the wiring or the spark plugs themselves. The easiest way to dry the spark plugs is to press the gas to the floor and crank the engine with the starter two or more times. Often, after this the car will start. If this does not help, then for more thorough drying you should dismantle the spark plugs, then clean them, check the gap, and then dry them with a hairdryer or in the oven.

The car starts and immediately stalls

You start the engine, it starts its work and literally calms down after a couple of seconds. This can baffle even an experienced driver. But don’t worry ahead of time. To quickly identify a breakdown:

  • Check the condition of the ignition coil. The electrical connections may be damaged or loose.
  • Make sure that the connections between the intake tract elements are completely sealed.
  • Measure the pressure in the fuel rail - make sure that its value is equal to the norm.

Again, the entire engine control system may be faulty. In this case, you will have to carry out a full diagnosis. It is best to entrust this to professional craftsmen by contacting a car service.

Poor quality fuel

Spark plugs can also flood due to bad gasoline.
This is another reason why the engine does not start. Very often, condensation forms in winter and clogs the coarse filter. To avoid this, periodically add pure alcohol to the tank in winter. It smokes, sneezes, smokes like a snake Gorynych, this often happens in our time, but, as a rule, people have some remnants of conscience and they try not to reduce gasoline to a non-flammable state.

The car can even run on this kind of gasoline, the only problem is that it is absolutely not useful for the engine. To avoid this, refuel at large chain gas stations.

They, as a rule, monitor their reputation and do not allow this to happen, but if it turns out that you have filled in burnt gasoline, and even so much that the car does not want to start, you can drain the gasoline and fill in another, road gas, or if there is not much left , you can fill in more good 95 gasoline and its mixture with palenka will be more or less normal.

Of course, there are severe cases when filters and injectors become clogged and they have to be washed out for a long time and tediously (or whatever is easier to change), but this happens mainly when buying gasoline from some garage “oil workers”.

It’s quite easy to protect yourself from them - just refuel at trusted places and under no circumstances buy gasoline from any garage gas dealers. In principle, they are not such a common occurrence now, but they still occur, and people buy gasoline from them because it is cheaper, but it is better not to do this, the stingy pays twice - an immutable truth.

And if you really had to buy such a piece of water, at least filter it, there is no need to clog the filter with nozzles.

Symptoms

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The approximate time that is considered long and for which the engine starts is 5 or 8 seconds. In this case, twitching is definitely observed in the first seconds of operation of the internal combustion engine. At times it seems that the engine is operating on only two cylinders, and not four.

If you press the accelerator before starting, the start will be faster. But at the same time, fuel consumption and engine warm-up time will increase until the speed drops to normal. Another inseparable companion of such a situation is black exhaust.

Obviously, black smoke from the muffler directly indicates that the fuel is not completely consumed and remains in the cylinders.

Bendix replacement

The most common cause of engine failure with a rotating starter is considered to be a broken bendix. Its cost is low, so there is no point in repairing the part. Literally speaking, Bendix is ​​considered a consumable. Replace it by following simple instructions:

  • We remove the old starter. We disconnect the negative terminal from the battery in advance and get rid of all fastening bolts and nuts using a screwdriver and wrench.
  • The retractor unit also needs to be removed.
  • Disconnect the traction relay from the housing. It must first be disassembled.
  • We take out the starter entirely, removing the fastenings. Let's put it aside.
  • We find the retaining ring and dismantle it. We remove the bendix.

Reassemble the mechanism in reverse order and start the car. If no errors were made during assembly, the car will start quickly. The main thing is to choose a new starter that is identical to the original one.

To summarize, we note that the cause of a breakdown is not always an engine malfunction. Identifying the “sore spot” is possible only with an integrated approach. If you do not have enough experience and are afraid of making things worse, then it is better not to attempt to repair your vehicle yourself.

Why Lada Kalina (8 valves) does not start: reasons and solutions

If the car does not start and the starter does not turn, the reasons may be as follows:

  1. Discharged battery. It is not difficult to identify this: if the voltage in the battery is less than 12 V and a cracking sound appears when you try to start the car, this means that the battery is discharged. The problem can be easily fixed; just charge or replace the battery.
  2. Oxidation of terminals or loose fit. If the voltage drops when you start the car, there is a problem with the terminals. It is necessary to thoroughly clean the contacts and lubricate them with special Vaseline.
  3. The motor is jammed. By checking the rotation of the crankshaft, you can find out whether the power unit is working properly. To fix the problem, it is enough to repair it. Provided you have the knowledge and the necessary tools, you can actually do this yourself. You can also deliver the car to a service station.
  4. Problems with the starter. Often in this case you need to change it.
  5. The problem is in the starter circuit. To solve the problem, you need to replace the traction relay.
  6. Starter commutator burnout. Here, only replacement of this mechanism is required.

There are times when Kalina starts immediately, but then stalls. This malfunction can be caused by:

  • damaged electrical connections of the ignition coil;
  • low pressure in the fuel frame;
  • leaky intake tract connections;
  • faulty motor control system.

In general, there are a lot of reasons; the main thing is to identify them in time and begin to eliminate them.

Gasoline pump

The vagaries of the fuel pump are often observed, especially in winter. The starter works, but the Kalina car refuses to start, you can’t hear the fuel pump running, the dashboard may flash

First of all, check the pressure in the fuel system. To do this, open the hood and look for the cap on the ramp with the injectors. You can see the nipple there - if you press it, fuel should spray out. If it splashes, then the problem is not with the fuel pump.

Another reason is the relay. There is a cover in the transmission tunnel on the passenger side. It contains power coils. To eliminate the malfunction, just knock or warm them up.

If then you need to get to it and check the voltage. If the multimeter shows about 12 V, then the fuel pump is working. If not, then it is worth checking the fuses, as well as the relays.

Lada does not start when cold: reasons

The following phenomena can cause a problem:

  1. Slow crankshaft rotation. This may occur due to a low battery or congealed engine oil.
  2. If the problem is in the entire fuel system. It happens that because the water in the ramp has dried up, the entire system malfunctions.
  3. Injectors leaking.
  4. The problem is in the motor system.
  5. Weak compression in the cylinders.

It is not always possible to identify and eliminate these causes on your own, so you have to contact a service center.

About DTOZH

In general, power unit temperature sensors are the most important regulators of an injection engine. There are two of them on it. One is located directly in the cylinder head, it displays the temperature value on the instrument panel.

The second one is located in the thermostat, and provides data on the temperature of the control unit of the power unit. Based on the results obtained, the control unit regulates the fuel supply - it supplies more fuel to a cold internal combustion engine, and less to a hot one. In addition, it is the control unit that regulates the OZ, influences the ignition of the fuel assembly, and activates the coolant fan if the liquid temperature rises above 100 °C.

Obviously, with faulty DTOZh there will be difficulties in the operation of the motor. However, this applies more to the DTOZH, which provides information directly to the block. For example, if the DTOZH is faulty, it will give false values ​​about a cold engine, although it is already boiling. The supply of fuel to the cylinders will increase, because this is provided by the system. Let's say you drove for a long time, then stopped and went into a store. Now starting the power unit will cause obvious displeasure, since it will take a very long time to start due to data failures and oversaturation.

At the same time, the SOP, which is responsible for the ignition of a fuel assembly that is clearly over-enriched, changes greatly. As a result, the fuel will evaporate intensively, and the concentration of gasoline in the fuel assembly will be so high that the mixture will hardly ignite due to the small amount of oxygen.

Bendix replacement

The most common cause of engine failure with a rotating starter is considered to be a broken bendix. Its cost is low, so there is no point in repairing the part. Literally speaking, Bendix is ​​considered a consumable. Replace it by following simple instructions:

  • We remove the old starter. We disconnect the negative terminal from the battery in advance and get rid of all fastening bolts and nuts using a screwdriver and wrench.
  • The retractor unit also needs to be removed.
  • Disconnect the traction relay from the housing. It must first be disassembled.
  • We take out the starter entirely, removing the fastenings. Let's put it aside.
  • We find the retaining ring and dismantle it. We remove the bendix.

Reassemble the mechanism in reverse order and start the car. If no errors were made during assembly, the car will start quickly. The main thing is to choose a new starter that is identical to the original one.

To summarize, we note that the cause of a breakdown is not always an engine malfunction. Identifying the “sore spot” is possible only with an integrated approach. If you do not have enough experience and are afraid of making things worse, then it is better not to attempt to repair your vehicle yourself.

Many car enthusiasts have encountered a problem when the Lada Kalina does not start the first time. There may be various reasons for this, which need to be known and eliminated in time. In this article, we will look at the main reasons that the car does not start the first time and methods for eliminating these faults.

How and why the immobilizer fails

Let's dwell on this topic in a little more detail. The thing is that the ECU controller on this model is located under the heater radiator. In second-generation models, the controller was moved.


So, if the Kalina does not start, you need to remove the side wall from the left side in the passenger seat and visually check the ECU. The block must be dry. If it is wet, then it is filled with coolant - in this case, it will not be possible to restore the ECU, only replacement will help.

First of all, when exposed to liquid, the output switch burns out. The chip can be re-soldered, but after such repairs the problems will go away for literally two months, and then they will appear again. The heater radiator will need to be replaced. If this problem exists, then experts recommend installing a new controller between the engine compartment partition and the stove.

Now about the immobilizer - in Kalina cars the manufacturer installs APS-6 immobilizers. In very rare cases, these devices fail on their own. Often, the problem is hidden in the wiring or control panel. The key fob body is held together with one self-tapping screw - the screw can be overtightened or undertightened. A crack appears on the remote device chip between the transponder contacts. In this case, if the Kalina does not start, only a spare or training key, or replacing the remote control will help.

Starter or wiring problems

You can use a multimeter to test the wiring. The red wire is connected to the starter contact, the black wire to ground. In a normal situation, the device will show from 12.5 to 14.5 V. If the reading is less or even zero, then there is something wrong with the wiring.

The first step is to clean the contacts, check the integrity of the wires and fuses.


If the check shows that there is current, then the starter will have to be replaced. If the latter makes clicks but does not rotate, then the starter motor has failed. If everything is the other way around, then the problem is with the retractor coil.

This is another popular problem when Kalina does not start. ECUs are the “brains” of the car; they themselves are quite reliable, and if you don’t touch them, then no problems will happen. However, most often the ECU is flooded.

This often happens when antifreeze leaks. This has already been discussed in the section on the immobilizer. When installing an alarm system or when pulling car wires, they forget to install the plugs - water gets into the ECU. Repairing an electronic unit is a futile exercise.


In the new generation, this problem was solved, and now the ECU is located in a different location. However, now another problem has appeared - if the drain hole, which is located next to the cabin filter, is clogged, then water can enter the computer through the holes.

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