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The other day I stopped by a car shop to buy antifreeze to top up, I had red G12 in it... I tell the salesman I need red G12, but he gives me red but G11, he says that since both are red, they are compatible with each other. I took it but was wary, didn’t top it up right away, when I arrived home, I went online and asked what the difference was between G11 and G12 antifreeze, it turned out that my fears were not in vain. Having read articles on the Internet, I now found out what the difference is between different antifreezes what now I want to share this information with you
What is the difference between G11 and G12 antifreeze? Let's look at facts and examples
Quite often, car enthusiasts have questions about what is the difference between G11 and G12 antifreezes.
, is it possible to mix them, how long do they last and which one to choose - more expensive or a budget option. Since a quiet ride (without nerves, stops and boiling, especially in the heat) depends on the quality of the cooling system, this curiosity is appropriate, correct and not idle.
The classification by which antifreeze is labeled was introduced into use by Volkswagen. At first, only antifreezes from this company were divided in this way. Over time, other Europeans joined it, and then domestic manufacturers began to use the marking.
What is the difference between G11 and G12 antifreezes
, not everyone sitting behind the wheel is aware. There are drivers who ignore these foreign letters: cooler and cooler, they are all the same. However, with this approach, you can be left without wheels for a long time and incur large expenses.
We can say that this is the most common antifreeze, which has been familiar since Soviet times. Made from the usual and standard ethylene glycol. In addition to it, the composition includes a small set of additives (inorganic). The principle of operation is the formation of a kind of carbon deposit on the entire surface of the cooling system, which prevents unwanted corrosion.
On the one hand, it is a guarantee of the absence of rust, on the other hand, because of this crust, thermal conductivity decreases and cooling efficiency decreases. In the modern automotive world, it is used exclusively for cars manufactured before 1996. Distinctive feature: it burns out, loses additives and stops working as expected after a fairly short time.
It is based on the same ethylene glycol, but with the addition of organics - carboxylate compounds. Plus a huge range of additional additives. From different manufacturers it may be different both in composition and in proportions. Designed for high-speed engines with high temperature load. It does not cover the entire system; it attacks only areas affected by rust. Due to this, the degree of cooling is higher, the consumption of additives is much more economical - as a result, it operates successfully for at least 5 years on an intensively used machine. Recommended for cars born before 2001 (in Europe. We have peace of mind in newer ones too).
G12+ antifreeze is considered more advanced. It contains no borates, nitrites, amines, phosphates and silicates. According to European standards, it is suitable for cars that came off the assembly line up to the present day (although it is considered not entirely modern).
The most correct and suitable for modern cars is G13 antifreeze. It causes significantly less harm to the environment. Instead of ethylene glycol, the base is propylene glycol. This antifreeze is not toxic, it decomposes very quickly - production is so expensive that it is not produced in Russia and the rest of the CIS.
It is not recommended to add liquids with different indicators to each other. And this applies to all oils, antifreeze and other substances. As for g11 and g12, when they are combined, two negative points are observed:
G12 loses its properties both when added to G11 and when G11 is added to it. The crust formed by 11 antifreeze prevents the action of the more advanced G12, so overpaying for a more modern antifreeze is in vain;
If the antifreezes are from different manufacturers, no one can predict the consequences of combining them. There have been cases when antifreeze additives reacted with each other so actively that jelly literally formed in the cooling system.
If the situation is really bad, and there is nowhere to retreat, you can risk adding another antifreeze to one, hoping to only get a loss in the qualities of G12. That is, try to find at least antifreeze from the same manufacturer in a force majeure situation. However, upon reaching the end of the journey, the system will need to be thoroughly rinsed and the indistinct compote replaced with a homogeneous antifreeze that you use constantly. The same applies to the case when you intend to improve the quality of the coolant being poured.
Realizing the difference between G11 and G12 antifreezes, a caring owner would rather carry a certain supply of native antifreeze with him than pour a foreign one into the car. After all, a bottle of antifreeze does not take up much space in the trunk.
I hope that this information has become useful to someone and saved unnecessary problems and waste of money associated with antifreeze...
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Choosing what coolant to fill in the VAZ-2114?
Car : VAZ-2114. Asks : Syutkin Alexander. The essence of the question : what is better to fill in the cooling system of the VAZ-2114?
On my hatchback 2114, the antifreeze has not been changed since the factory. It was just topped up, but I don’t know the brand of liquid. I myself added distilled water to the tank, bringing the level to the MAX mark. But I know that you can’t do this - the freezing temperature rises. I would like to know what brand of antifreeze was filled in at the factory to completely replace it. Surely, only one coolant was poured into VAZ-2114 cars. Which one exactly?
Pouring liquid into the system
What kind of coolant to pour into a VAZ 2114 is always a concern for car owners of these cars. There is no big difference, you can pour antifreeze into the cooling system, you can also add antifreeze, but mixing the compounds is still very undesirable. Antifreeze has a more aggressive environment due to other additives, and its too concentrated composition can even “corrode” the radiator over time. It is better to add to the radiator the brand of coolant that was previously filled in the system. If the brand is not known, then it is better to completely replace the fluid.
Replacement with flushing
Is it possible to replace antifreeze with antifreeze? Why not. It is only necessary to flush the cooling system when replacing antifreeze with antifreeze. Conversely, you need to flush the cooling system when replacing antifreeze with antifreeze. We have already indicated the reason for flushing - the compositions are different and mixing can lead to foaming of the coolant. Of course, an explosion will not occur, but long-term use of the mixed composition is not recommended. The system should be flushed with clean water, and the water should be changed several times. Rinse until clear liquid, free of dirty impurities, drains from the radiator.
Replacing the coolant on a VAZ is done with your own hands in stages:
- We park the car level; at an angle, all the coolant may not drain out;
- Remove the expansion tank plug;
- Unscrew the drain plug at the bottom of the radiator. We prepare the container into which the contents from the radiator are drained in advance;
- We twist the plug on the cylinder block and drain the coolant from the block. To get to the plug, you need to remove the ignition module. The module is secured with three bolts;
- We tighten the plugs, fill in water and start the engine. Let the engine run for fifteen minutes;
- As already written above, we flush the system several times;
- Then fill in new fluid and remove the airlock. How many liters of antifreeze are provided in the VAZ 2114, so many should enter the system.
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Removing the air lock
How to add antifreeze if there is an air lock? There are different ways to fill liquid (discussed below).
Removing air through the throttle assembly:
- Remove one of the coolant supply hoses to the throttle valve.
- Remove the expansion tank cap and cover the tank with a clean rag.
- Blow through a rag into the reservoir until coolant flows from the removed hose.
- Quickly put the hose in place, tighten it with a clamp, and add fluid to the level. How much antifreeze will still fit into the VAZ 2114 depends on how “airy” the system is.
Removing air through the throttle without removing the expansion tank plug:
- We heat up the engine and turn it off.
- Remove one of the throttle hoses.
- After a short time, the air should come out and antifreeze should flow.
- We also quickly put on the hose.
- Check the coolant level and add it as necessary.
Bleeding air by placing the vehicle at an angle:
- We're heading uphill.
- Remove the tank cap.
- Warm up the engine to operating temperature.
- We accelerate sharply. If liquid falls into the system, add it.
You can change the cooling radiator on a VAZ yourself. In this case, an air lock may also form. You need to control how many liters of antifreeze will fit into the VAZ 2114. If there is a lot of new coolant left in the canister, it is necessary to remove the plug, otherwise the engine may overheat.
It should be remembered that the volume of the cooling system in the VAZ 2114 is approximately 7.5-8 liters.
If you don’t want to bother with replacing the coolant, you can take the car to a car service center. The cost of such work depends on the region and the level of equipment of the car workshop or center. On average, the price ranges from 300 to 600 rubles.
Tips for replacing coolant
- Hot liquid must be drained carefully, using gloves and thick, waterproof clothing.
- After replacement, you need to check if there is an air lock in the system. The air must be expelled, otherwise the engine may overheat.
- When draining the liquid, cover the generator with a thick plastic bag or rag to prevent coolant from getting into it.
- When mixing antifreeze with antifreeze, nothing particularly bad will happen, but it is still advisable to avoid mixing.
Take into account all the nuances when replacing the coolant
Take care of your car!
What kind of liquid should be poured into the cooling system according to the passport?
Open the hood and look at the expansion tank. We see a sticker on top: it says “ TC Felix-40”. This means that Felix TC-40 antifreeze, produced in the city of Dzerzhinsk (Tosol-Sintez LLC), was filled with antifreeze.
The sticker on the tank must be present
If there is no sticker, we identify the liquid by color:
- Green – as indicated above;
- Yellow -green (light green ), there is a fluorescent effect - CoolStream Standart 40 (Tehnoform, Klimovsk).
There may be a blue coolant, but like the previous two, it is a G11 class antifreeze. The red liquid belongs to class G12 - further on it says how to dilute it.
Antifreeze can be sold in the form of a concentrate. Usually you need to add water (distillate) in a 1 to 1 ratio. Be careful!
G11 and G12 (antifreeze or antifreeze)
Compatibility table for antifreeze:
- Antifreeze class G11 – color blue, green or yellow-green. Can be diluted with antifreeze or G11 class antifreeze.
- Class G12 – red color. In principle, it is impossible to add coolant of another class (not G12).
When buying, you need to look not at the color, but only at the designations.
Antifreezes of two different classes
In the VAZ-2114 tank, the coolant can be colored red. If it was refilled upon release, then we are talking about Felix Carbox TC-40 (G12) antifreeze. When inspecting the tank, pay attention to the presence of smudges. If there are any, then the antifreeze is knocked out of the tank and the coolant boils.
Educational program by name: “antifreeze” is one of the types of antifreeze classified as class G11.
Concentration and proportions
Standard concentrates contain 3% water and freeze at low temperatures. To increase it to “-40”, the water content is adjusted to 50% (proportion “1 to 1”). According to VAZ requirements, the freezing temperature should be “-40” or lower. Draw conclusions.
If antifreeze freezes at “-50”, adding 1/10 of water raises the temperature to “-40”, and 1/5 to “-34”.
About the cooling system in general
The volume of the cooling system of engines 2111, 11183 and 21124 is the same. It is equal to 7.8 l. Part of the “old” fluid (1-2 l) remains in the system when replaced. Therefore, they do this: they fill the system with water (distillate), drive 10-20 km, and carry out the final replacement. All actions, of course, are performed in the warm season.
Ignition module - how to remove it
To get to the drain plug, you need to remove the ignition module from the 11183 engine. What needs to be done: disconnect the low-voltage connector, unscrew the three screws (see photo). You can then remove the module along with the bracket.
It is better not to apply all the “folk advice” about adding various acids to the wash water. It is unknown how a liter of antifreeze will react with vinegar or citric acid. But the stove tap must be opened when flushing.
For replacement (factory recommendations for choosing coolant)
For a complete replacement, it is recommended to choose any material from the list:
- CoolStream Standard – green, G11;
- CoolStream Premium – orange, meets the requirements of class G12+, but belongs to class G12 or G11 (the manufacturer does not specify);
- “Lada Concentrate” - G11, manufactured by “Bulgar Lada Plus” (Kazan) or “Oil Center” (Tolyatti);
- "Lada A-40" - the same as "Lada Concentrate", but in a ready-to-use form;
- OZhK, also OZh-40 or OZh-65 “TOSOL-TS” - different names and concentrations of antifreeze from the city of Dzerzhinsk (see above);
- OZhK, OZh-40 or OZh-65 “TOSOL-TORSA” – blue-green, G11;
- "Antifreeze G-48" - G11. The material has been discontinued and was produced in the city of Perm.
The photo below shows an example of a fake.
The name contains everything – Dzerzhinsk and A-40. Be careful.
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Properties of antifreeze G11, G12, G12+, G13
To cool a car engine, liquids that have a very low freezing point are used. The general name for such liquids is antifreeze.
In Russia, a liquid called “Tosol” was used for cooling engines for a long time. And now in conversation all coolants are often called “antifreeze” for simplicity.
In modern practice, two types of Antifreeze are used for cooling - salt-based and acid-based. In order to distinguish different coolers from each other, they were painted in different colors - the first are blue or green, and the second are red. The choice of coolant type depends on the materials used in the manufacture of the engine cooling system.
The coolant contains ethylene or polypropylene glycol as a liquid component. Since the first of them is very toxic, it is preferable to use antifreeze based on polypropylene glycol, which is done by self-respecting cooler production companies.
Based on the above, it is clear that mixing antifreeze of different colors is unacceptable. To change antifreeze, it is better to completely replace the cooler in accordance with the time limits specified by the manufacturer. The main differences between antifreeze color G12 and G11
G12
- This is a red-colored, less often yellow-colored, carboxylate antifreeze.
It is characterized by a local effect, that is, if a corrosion lesion has formed in the system, then the additives localize it. This allows antifreeze to work with sufficient efficiency for a considerable period - from 5 years, and only then its additives are depleted. G11
is a silicate antifreeze. It is painted in completely different colors - blue, green, yellow, orange, and in the past sometimes even red was found. Its domestic analogue is antifreeze. It interacts with all surfaces of the system, covering all parts with a protective film. Therefore, its service life is shorter - up to three years.
When using one of these types of antifreeze first and then changing it to another, one nuance should be taken into account. Filled with antifreeze, G12 faces the problem of the old protective film and works with much less efficiency. Yes, and it will be necessary to change it in three years. And antifreeze poured after G12 instantly stops its effect. Therefore, it is advisable to always use the same brand of antifreeze. And under no circumstances should you mix these two brands! Antifreeze G12+, which has properties similar to G12, can easily mix with antifreeze. When mixed, only its lifespan suffers, dropping to 3 years, but overall mixing gives acceptable results.
In general, you should not be guided by antifreeze by its color, as is usually customary here. You should not divide them into “antifreeze”, “yellow antifreeze”, “green antifreeze”, “red antifreeze”. Instead, it is better to carefully read their composition, think about their action and compatibility with what is currently loaded.
Any ANTIFREEZE is a mixture of ethylene glycol (polypropylene glycol), water, dye and additive package.
Initially, this was a nomenclature designation for antifreeze specially developed for VAZ cars during the construction of the plant in Tolyatti. The Italians were not satisfied with the quality of the Antifreeze 156 that existed at that time in the USSR; they demanded the creation of a new antifreeze. TOSOL is an abbreviation: Technology of Organic Synthesis of OL (alcohol according to chemical nomenclature). Now this name has become simply a household name. Those. Antifreeze is a type of antifreeze.
Each manufacturer uses its own package of additives, including even in the line of one manufacturer, antifreeze may differ in the number and composition of additives used. Additives can be anti-corrosion, anti-foam, reducing the impact on rubber, etc. In the 70s, European manufacturers decided to create a coolant classification. Three classes were developed.
G11
— ethylene glycol is used, usually the cheapest coolant, with a small package of additives. This class was assigned the color green. By the way, colors were introduced so that liquids of different classes could be distinguished. Before this, the liquids were colorless.
G12
— ethylene glycol and carboxylate compounds are used. Due to the fact that the anti-corrosion film is created only in the hot spots, and does not cover all internal surfaces, heat removal when using this antifreeze is more effective than that of G11. Best suited for high-speed and temperature-loaded engines. Due to a more advanced package, e-liquids of this class are more expensive. This class was assigned the color red.
G13
— polypropylene glycol is used. This is a more environmentally friendly product (non-toxic, decomposes faster). Europe is pursuing environmental friendliness, which is why they create such products. The most expensive coolants. This class is assigned a yellow or orange color. In Russia, not a single manufacturer makes G13 class liquids. They are not old enough to chase the environment for that kind of money.
But most Russian and Asian manufacturers do not adhere to this classification. Take the same TCL: it has both green and red fluids of the G11 class, but they differ in the additive package (red is more advanced). Therefore, the manufacturer introduced color divisions to differentiate the product for the end customer. Take for example the original Honda antifreeze - it is made in green color (well, that’s what they wanted), but its properties correspond to the G12 class. This is where the confusion comes from. In general, don’t get hung up on the color, take at least blue antifreeze, as long as it is of high quality and matches the temperature regime of your engine (for a Honda, the boiling point at a pressure of 1.1 should be no lower than 108 degrees).
As for corrosion: it all depends on the additive package, as well as on its balance. At first, almost all more or less high-quality liquids equally protect against corrosion, but over time, in cheap products, the additives are used up, decompose, and only a mixture of glycol and water circulates in the cooling system, naturally, there is no talk of any protection. Therefore, if you fill in TCL and change it every 6-12 months, nothing bad will happen even for Honda engines, but you can buy expensive antifreeze and change it every 3-4 years. It's up to the buyer.
About mixing: it is allowed to mix liquids of classes G11 and G12 from the same manufacturer. This may cause a color change. In emergency cases (on a long trip in the absence of other options), you can mix fluids from different manufacturers, but replace them with fresh ones with a complete flush as quickly as possible. Due to the different composition of additives, they may begin to interact and precipitate, worsening the properties of the coolant.
About European manufacturers: now 90% of the European additive package market is occupied by BASF
.
For decades now they have been producing the so-called super concentrate for classes G11 and G12 (just a package of additives). This product is branded as Glysantin
.
Manufacturers such as Castrol, Mobil, Agip, Addinoil
etc.
they buy Basovsky superconcentrate, add water and ethylene glycol, pack it in cans and sell it. The same AWM
is also produced from this masterbatch. So, Castrolov antifreeze, Mobil, and AWM are all the same inside.
Classification of Glysantin antifreeze:
Traditional antifreezes. TOSOL and modifications. (Glysantin G05) Corrosion inhibitors in these types of antifreeze are made on the basis of inorganic substances, including nitrites, phosphates, amines, silicates and their variants. Designated IAT (Inorganic Acid Technology) or “Traditional coolants”. Traditional antifreezes, which include antifreeze, are considered obsolete today. The reason that they are gradually falling out of use is their low service life (2 years) and ineffective operation at high temperatures (over 105 °C). By covering the inner surface of the cooling system with a silicate layer, traditional antifreezes reduce its protective functions. Hybrid antifreezes. G11.(Glysantin G48)
In addition to organic inhibitors, such coolants also contain inorganic inhibitors (silicates, nitrites, phosphates). Designated HOAT (Hybrid Organic Acid Technology). The service life of hybrid antifreezes rarely exceeds 3 years.
Carboxylate antifreezes. G12/G12+ (Glysantin G30,33,34)
Today they are considered the best because they contain corrosion inhibitors made on the basis of organic (otherwise known as carboxylic) acids.
Designated OAT (Organic Acid Technology). Carboxylate inhibitors do not form a protective layer on the entire surface of the cooling system, being adsorbed only in places where corrosion occurs with the formation of protective layers no more than 0.1 microns thick only in places where corrosion occurs. Carboxylate antifreezes last longer than hybrid and traditional ones - on average about 5 years. Lobridaceae.
G12++ (Glysantin G40) This type of antifreeze was isolated relatively recently - in 2008.
Their uniqueness lies in the fact that a small amount of mineral inhibitors is added to the organic base. Since there is no generally accepted designation for them yet, among developers, lobrids are called “Lobrid coolants” or “SOAT coolants”. Lobride antifreezes contain organic acids and silicates. Silicates are used to form a protective anti-corrosion film, and carbon components protect only those places where corrosion can begin. It has an unlimited service life when poured into a new engine. My choice of antifreeze fell on AWM® 12+/Glysantin® G30
! In many tests it performed well. Good luck to all!
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What antifreeze does AvtoVAZ recommend?
For all VAZ engines (Lada Granta, Kalina, Priora, Niva 4x4), the manufacturer’s recommendations are the same (data from books on the operation, maintenance and repair of Lada cars):
- Antifreeze G-48;
- Cool Steam Standard;
- Cool Steam Premium;
- TS-Felix;
- Felix Carbox;
- SINTEC (for example, “Antifreeze SINTEC” TU 2422-047-51140047-2007);
- Long Life;
- G-Energy Antefreexe.
For K4M and K7M power units that are installed on Lada Largus, the manufacturer recommends GLACOEL RX antifreeze (type D). For Lada Vesta and XRAY, it is recommended to use Type D antifreeze based on a mixture of water and ethylene glycol. AvtoVAZ answer: the coolant in the VAZ 21179 engine cooling system is Sintec LUX G12 antifreeze (Sintec ANTIFREEZLUX G12).
Coolstream NRC in yellow is also used.
When to change?
We have already determined that, from the point of view of the needs of the VAZ 2114, antifreeze is best suited for this car. Although the plant itself has clear recommendations and standards in this regard. If you have a really high-quality antifreeze, which costs more than antifreeze, its performance efficiency will not be inferior to VAZ’s development, and in some places it may even be better.
But first, let’s determine exactly when the coolant needs to be replaced. It all depends on each specific situation, so there are several recommendations in this regard.
What to fill?
A question that interests many is the volume of liquid that should be poured into the engine cooling system of the VAZ 2114. We answer. The volume of antifreeze or antifreeze is exactly 7.8 liters.
Since we agreed that antifreeze would be the best choice, let’s talk about its varieties and determine which one is best to use.
Type of antifreeze
Peculiarities
Decide for yourself which of this you will pour into the engine cooling system. Each of the three presented types of coolant has its own characteristics and works equally effectively for the benefit of your car.
Do not forget about the existence of high-quality antifreezes. They cost more, but last about 1-2 years longer.
Coolant replacement procedure
on all injection 8-valve VAZs: 2108, 2109, 2110, 2111, 2112, 2113.
9) Next, go to the radiator and unscrew the drain plug from it.
The note! After unscrewing the plug, the waste liquid will begin to flow out of the radiator, which will also need to be drained completely into a previously prepared container!
10) Once all the used fluid has drained, replace the radiator drain plug and then tighten it until it is tight.
Filling: Then the operation of filling the refrigerant will be divided by the assistant and also by you:
This is done by an assistant: First, to prevent the formation of air pockets in the engine cooling system, loosen the hose clamp of the coolant supply hose, and after loosening, disconnect this hose from the throttle body.
You do this: While your helper holds the coolant hose in his hand, you start by not filling much new coolant into the expansion tank, using a funnel to do this.
Is it possible to mix antifreeze?
Is it possible to mix antifreeze from different manufacturers? The operating manual for the Lada car states: “The use of mixtures of coolants of different brands is not allowed.”
Is it possible to mix antifreeze of different colors, but from the same manufacturer? There is no definite answer, because... Some manufacturers color the coolant “to taste,” while others add color based on the chemical composition or additives. According to statistics, about 85% of motorists do not mix antifreeze of different colors. At the same time, 64% believe that if you mix antifreeze of different colors, nothing bad will happen. You can view the survey and take part in it here.
The book on operation, maintenance and repair of the Lada Vesta car states:
Various dyes are added to antifreeze, giving the antifreeze a particular color that does not affect its operational and chemical properties. Therefore, when choosing antifreeze, you should pay attention not to its color, but to its chemical composition (type), recommended by the car manufacturer. If the antifreeze is concentrated, then it should be diluted with distilled water in a certain proportion. They are usually indicated on the label attached to the container.
Choosing the best antifreeze
Antifreeze is a liquid designed to cool the engine and is very often called “Antifreeze” by our car enthusiasts. Literally, antifreeze means “not to freeze.” Which antifreeze is better? You will find out the answer to this and other questions by reading the article on our website.
Briefly about antifreeze
Engine cooling fluids are vital for the functioning of any car, so an important indicator of antifreeze is its non-freezing at low ambient temperatures. Manufacturers indicate the freezing temperature of antifreeze on the bottles - “OZH-40”, “OZH-65”, “A-40”.
Any refrigerant is based on a glycol-water mixture, which determines:
- the ability of the coolant not to freeze in the winter season;
- specific heat capacity of the consumable material;
- viscosity and ability to collect on the walls of the expansion tank;
- the likelihood of the element impacting the rubber components of the car’s cooling system.
Leakage of green coolant in a car
Additives, in turn, can be:
- anti-corrosion;
- anti-foaming;
- stabilizing.
In domestic production, antifreezes are standardized based on ethylene glycol:
- color of the substance;
- its density coefficient;
- the temperature at which the liquid begins to turn into crystals;
- corrosion property on metal parts;
- ability to foam.
But other properties, such as the amount of various additives, the miscibility of liquids, and the color of the refrigerant, are chosen by the manufacturer himself.
Red coolant leaks
The period for replacing the fluid is determined by the manufacturer. But it is also important to take into account the car manufacturer’s recommendations regarding the replacement period specified in the operating instructions. On average, the service life of the refrigerant is about two years.
What color does it come in?
Antifreeze itself is a colorless consumable, but today there are very few such antifreezes left on the market. It is the color that distinguishes the refrigerant from ordinary water, and this is necessary because:
- firstly, the liquid is poisonous and it should be different. Coolant should not be accessible to children because it has a sweetish taste;
- secondly, the color of the antifreeze will quickly help identify a leak, if any;
- thirdly, color can indicate certain properties. In particular, we are talking about bright red and orange refrigerant - this is the color of coolants produced by some American, Japanese and German automakers. The bottom line is that the service life of such “consumables” is about 200-250 thousand kilometers.
Green
In the countries of the Soviet Union, German standards were taken for the classification of refrigerants.
So, the green color of antifreeze determines its classification “G 11”. It is a hybrid type liquid. It is based on ethylene glycol and inorganic additive elements that completely protect all components of the cooling system from corrosion. Green refrigerants first appeared on the market about twenty years ago, and their service life on average is about three years.
This liquid can be used in any type of radiator, including aluminum. According to official data, hybrid coolants are refilled in new BMW, Mercedes, Chrysler, etc. cars.
Red
Red coolants and its shades belong to the carboxylate type of classification "G 12". The composition of such consumables includes organic additives, the principle of which is to selectively act on metal elements of the system that have been or may be affected by corrosion.
Such coolants appeared on sale around the same time as green antifreezes, but, unlike the latter, they are more suitable for high-speed and temperature-loaded engines. The service life of such a “consumable” can reach five years. In recent years, it has become widely used in the production of foreign cars in Russia, in particular in Ford, Renault, Opel, Hyundai, Kia, and Fiat cars.
In Russia and the post-Soviet space, Volkswagen standards are used for the classification of antifreeze: G 11, G 12, G 12+ and G 13.
If you buy a Japanese-made coolant, then the classification by color is completely different. Red color means freezing temperature -30 C.
Other colors
Refrigerants of the “G 13” standard are colored yellow and orange. This coolant uses propylene glycol as the basis. Unlike green and red antifreeze, this liquid is more environmentally friendly, and its cost is much higher. As a rule, such a “consumable” is used for cooling systems of sports cars and motorcycles.
However, coolant of this standard is almost impossible to find on the domestic market. Due to its high cost, it is not produced in the post-Soviet space, and it is imported to Ukraine and Russia extremely rarely.
In the Japanese coolant classification, yellow means a freezing point of -20 degrees.
As for the blue color, it is typical for the domestic “Tosol”. This is the same antifreeze, only made in Russia. But “Antifreeze” can be produced in both green and yellow colors - here there is no fundamental difference between the colors, the composition of the coolant is more important.
What kind of liquid should be poured into the cooling system according to the passport?
Open the hood and look at the expansion tank. We see a sticker on top: it says “ TC Felix-40”. This means that Felix TC-40 antifreeze, produced in the city of Dzerzhinsk (Tosol-Sintez LLC), was filled with antifreeze.
There must be a sticker on the tank. If there is no sticker, we determine the liquid by color:
- Green – as indicated above;
- Yellow -green (light green ), there is a fluorescent effect - CoolStream Standart 40 (Tehnoform, Klimovsk).
There may be a blue coolant, but like the previous two, it is a G11 class antifreeze. The red liquid belongs to class G12 - further on it says how to dilute it.
Antifreeze can be sold in the form of a concentrate. Usually you need to add water (distillate) in a 1 to 1 ratio. Be careful!
Drain antifreeze or antifreeze from the radiator
If you have engine protection, you need to remove it; it will get in the way. Then open the hood and unscrew the cap from the expansion tank.
Yes, one more important point, see if your cabin heater tap is open, if not, then open it so that during draining all the liquid drains completely and does not remain in the heater.
Don’t forget to place a container under the car into which we will drain the coolant. We unscrew the plug on the radiator to drain, it is located at the very bottom on the passenger side, but be careful that the stream does not splash on the generator, so as not to accidentally flood it, they say this happens.
We wait until everything goes away, after which we can move on to the next stage of draining the coolant from the engine.
G11 and G12 (antifreeze or antifreeze)
None Compatibility table for antifreeze:
- Antifreeze class G11 – color blue, green or yellow-green. Can be diluted with antifreeze or G11 class antifreeze.
- Class G12 – red color. In principle, it is impossible to add coolant of another class (not G12).
When buying, you need to look not at the color, but only at the designations.
Antifreeze of two different classes In the VAZ-2114 tank, the coolant can be colored red. If it was refilled upon release, then we are talking about Felix Carbox TC-40 (G12) antifreeze. When inspecting the tank, pay attention to the presence of smudges. If there are any, then the antifreeze is knocked out of the tank and the coolant boils.
Video example: “quick replacement” method
For diesel and gasoline engines the parameters will be the same!
When purchasing, you need to know the shade - Color
and
The type of
antifreeze allowed for the year of manufacture of your 2114. Select the manufacturer at your discretion. Do not forget - each type of liquid has its own service life.
For VAZ 2114 (1st generation) 2001, with any type of engine, carboxylate class antifreeze, type G12 with shades of red, is suitable. The approximate period of the next replacement will be 5 years. If possible, check the selected fluid against your vehicle manufacturer's specifications and service intervals.
None You can mix liquid from different manufacturers. if their types meet the mixing conditions.
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About the cooling system in general
The volume of the cooling system of engines 2111, 11183 and 21124 is the same. It is equal to 7.8 liters. Part of the “old” fluid (1-2 l) remains in the system when replaced. Therefore, they do this: they fill the system with water (distillate), drive 10-20 km, and carry out the final replacement. All actions, of course, are performed in the warm season.
Ignition module - how to remove it To get to the drain plug, you need to remove the ignition module from the 11183 engine. What needs to be done: disconnect the low-voltage connector, unscrew the three screws (see photo). You can then remove the module along with the bracket.
Fluid replacement
If you plan to switch the car from antifreeze to antifreeze for any reason, then the old coolant should be drained by unscrewing the plugs in the block and in the radiator. It is worth remembering that this will not help remove the entire volume of coolant (and it is consistently equal to 7.8 liters).
In order to completely clean the entire system, you should fill it with ordinary water and drive the car for about 30 kilometers, after which you should drain everything again and add antifreeze. It goes without saying that this procedure can only be carried out in the warm season, but not in the cold.
Filling with antifreeze
It should be said right away that some motorists perform themselves and advise others to carry out additional procedures for cleaning the system of old coolant - adding vinegar, acetone and other additives to distilled water. It is strictly not recommended to carry out such operations. At best, they will be of no use; at worst, they can cause damage to the cooling system.
For replacement (factory recommendations for choosing coolant)
For a complete replacement, it is recommended to choose any material from the list:
- CoolStream Standard – green, G11;
- CoolStream Premium – orange, meets the requirements of class G12+, but belongs to class G12 or G11 (the manufacturer does not specify);
- “Lada Concentrate” - G11, manufactured by “Bulgar Lada Plus” (Kazan) or “Oil Center” (Tolyatti);
- "Lada A-40" - the same as "Lada Concentrate", but in a ready-to-use form;
- OZhK, also OZh-40 or OZh-65 “TOSOL-TS” - different names and concentrations of antifreeze from the city of Dzerzhinsk (see above);
- OZhK, OZh-40 or OZh-65 “TOSOL-TORSA” – blue-green, G11;
- "Antifreeze G-48" - G11. The material has been discontinued and was produced in the city of Perm.
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Choosing a coolant for the VAZ-2114: antifreeze or antifreeze, which is better?
It happens that car owners pay insufficient or no attention to the condition of the coolant in the cooling system. Moreover, there are cases when car enthusiasts don’t even know what’s in it. This behavior is extremely undesirable, because the stable operation of the engine as a whole depends on the condition of the cooling system.
The video below provides an overview and comparison of the general properties of antifreeze and antifreeze:
A few quotes from a physics course
No, we will not sprinkle in formulas and laws, recall Carnot cycles and calculate efficiency using the ABC book. There is simply one figure that will convince even a camel that the coolant in the engine is no less important than engine oil.
If we take an average engine with a power of 100 kW, then according to all the laws of thermodynamics, this figure indicates the positive work that the motor transmits to the drive wheels. A modern tuned motor cannot produce more than 30% efficiency, hence the rated power of our motor is 333 kW. In other words, the engine burns just enough fuel to produce 333 kW. At the output we get only 100. Where the remaining 233 went is quite clear - they turned into heat. The enormous amount of heat that the coolant removes from the engine into the atmosphere.
Video recommendations for antifreeze: which color is better to fill?
Properties of coolants
However, car owners are often faced with the question of what to fill, antifreeze or antifreeze! Below, we will talk about this in detail and figure out which is better. Such competition and the conditional division of coolant into antifreeze and antifreeze exist only in Russia.
After all, “TOSOL” is a non-freezing liquid created on the territory of the Soviet Union, and now this word is a common noun.
The main component of any modern “TOSOL” is ethylene glycol, and as a rule it is painted in two colors: blue - with a freezing point of -40C , and red - capable of withstanding frost down to -65 degrees Celsius .
And the concept, antifreeze is the generally accepted name for liquids capable of operating at subzero temperatures in internal combustion engines , and also as anti-icing liquids in aviation. The composition of antifreeze, as a rule, includes: propylene glycol (non-toxic substance - approx.), ethylene glycol, glycerin, as well as various additives that protect against corrosion.
The right choice means a lot
Judging by various experiments carried out by the most advanced and well-known automotive publications, we can say with confidence that more than 20% of all car breakdowns directly depend on the quality of the coolant filled in, and about 40% of breakdowns indirectly affect this. Therefore, the choice of such liquids is a responsible and important process, because the correct choice of coolant can save both money and time in the future.
Classification
Today there are several main types of antifreeze.
G11/CODEG11
G11 / CODEG11 is one of the most common classes of antifreeze in the Russian Federation. Its base is ethylene glycol.
G11
The main advantage is ease of production and, accordingly, affordable price. The cost of antifreeze, by the way, may vary depending on the volume of the container, composition, the presence of high-quality additives, and so on.
This type of antifreeze contains no amines, borates or phosphates.
As for color, G11 / CODEG11 can have yellow, green and blue (most often) shades. Suitable for vehicles up to 1996.
G12 / CODEG12
G12 / CODEG12 is the second most popular antifreeze. Its base is propylene glycol. The price of such coolant is higher due to the higher cost of raw materials. And the quality of such antifreezes is higher.
G12
It is especially worth noting the effectiveness of anti-corrosion additives. It is believed that this type of fluid is optimal for cars from 1996-2001.
The main color is red, but there are options with different shades - carrot, purple and others.
Such coolant “lives” longer – up to five years.
IMPORTANT: If you mix the first and second types, this may lead to the formation of flakes
G12 Plus / G12+
G12 Plus / G12+ - antifreeze for cars from 2001 and up. A distinctive feature is the absence of various harmful elements - amines, borates, nitrides and others.
Therefore, G12 Plus can be safely mixed with other types of coolant. The color can be any, but most often lilac, violet and lilac.
G12 Plus
G13
G13 - similar to G12 Plus, but more modern technology was used during production.
In Russia, such antifreezes are not produced precisely for this reason.
Antifreeze of this type is intended in most cases for sports cars and motorcycles. A distinctive feature is heat capacity and thermal conductivity.
G13
Difficult choice between antifreeze and antifreeze
In order to choose the right coolant, it is recommended to study in detail the manufacturer’s manual, which most often states what type of coolant is intended for the car. Such instructions are always supported by successful tests of these compounds, specifically for each type of car engine. In addition, the recommendations may include a class of liquids that are produced using the following technologies:
- Traditional - coolant created using this technology contains additives from inorganic salts, such as nitrites, nitrates, phosphates, etc.
- Carboxylate - a coolant created using this technology already has additives from organic salts and carbonates, which interact much better with the internal parts of the engine.
- Hybrid - this technology was created to create a type of carboxylate technology with the addition of inorganic acids. This is done to reduce the cost of the final product.
As you can understand, antifreeze is a liquid created using traditional technology, and antifreeze is created using carboxylate technology, which has clear advantages over the former.
What are the differences from antifreeze
For many car enthusiasts, choosing antifreeze is a whole problem. The variety of colors and types of antifreeze makes it difficult to make the right choice.
But the main difficulty is a lack of understanding of the main difference between the coolant we are considering and ordinary antifreeze.
Many car enthusiasts have a certain stereotype that antifreeze is suitable for old cars, and antifreeze is suitable for new ones. Not at all.
These two coolants are the same thing. It’s just that antifreeze is an old-style antifreeze (classic type).
Due to its far from the best qualities and aggressiveness towards metals, it is used less and less, but some car enthusiasts still continue to buy antifreeze for one simple reason - it has an affordable price.
Pros and cons of antifreeze
As it became clear, antifreeze has a number of advantages; below we will describe each of them in more detail. Antifreeze has many advantages over antifreeze, which you should definitely familiarize yourself with:
Heat dissipation
Coolants that are created using traditional technology (TOSOL - approx.) are capable of creating a protective film on the surface of the metal in the engine, which can sometimes reach sizes of 0.5 mm. Despite the fact that this actively helps protect the metal from corrosion, heat transfer can deteriorate by up to 50%.
If low-quality coolant is poured in, scale can damage the water pump and impair the performance of the cooling system as a whole.
In this case, antifreeze is used as a heat insulator and does not allow the engine to cool properly under normal conditions. And during operation, it forces it to work at a much higher temperature, which leads to wear of parts, increased fuel consumption and reduced engine thrust. In this case, you will have to drain all the antifreeze and fill in new one.
Antifreeze in this regard works much more productively, since a protective layer is formed only where corrosion is possible, bypassing the rest of the surface, without interfering with stable heat transfer.
Lifetime
The service life of antifreeze, compared to antifreeze, is much longer, because during the production of antifreeze, nitrites and silicates are used to protect against erosion and corrosion, which, if their composition is damaged, very quickly lose their properties. And this can happen due to unbalanced consumption of one of the components.
Composition of antifreeze
This substance was developed in the USSR. For vases, moskvich and other domestic cars. The chemical composition and production technology have not changed over the years. The composition is as follows:
- Ethylene glycol;
- Distillate;
- Additives.
The secret is the composition of the additives, which should protect the system from corrosion and the pipes from destruction.
There are two types: blue (cyan) and red. Blue can be used in frosts up to 40 degrees, red - up to 65 degrees. In warm climates, dilution with water up to 50/50 is allowed, resulting in coolant for – 20 degrees and – 32 degrees, respectively.
Important: Ethylene glycol is poison. It is under no circumstances recommended to taste it or inhale the vapors. It is better to work with gloves, and if it gets on your skin, wash it off with soap and water.