The Renault Logan model belongs to the budget segment, but is a fairly popular car due to its successful combination of reliability, quality and price. In practice, as is the case with many other public sector vehicles, owners often maintain such cars themselves.
As a rule, such maintenance should mean the replacement of technical fluids, filters, brake pads and other consumables. Also, according to the regulations, the Logan alternator belt is replaced. Next, we will look at how to change the Renault Logan alternator belt.
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Depending on the vehicle configuration, there are three options for drive schemes for auxiliary units.
Here is a belt replacement option for a car with power steering and air conditioning. Belt replacement procedures for all options (including the one described) are posted on our Wikipedia (link)
Let's sum it up
Taking into account the above information, it becomes clear that replacing the Renault Logan alternator belt is not a complicated procedure and can easily be done with your own hands. However, it is important to choose the right belt and rollers and install the belt according to the diagram. Another nuance is the tension of the generator belt, which was discussed above in this article.
We also recommend reading the article on how to replace Renault Logan brake pads. From this article you will learn how to correctly change the pads on a Logan, as well as what needs to be taken into account as part of this procedure.
As a summary, we note that in order to avoid common mistakes, you should separately study the manual, its installation diagram, as well as how to properly tension the belt itself and with what force. This approach will allow you to perform the procedure correctly, and without damage to the belt itself and other mechanisms.
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Automatic tensioner assembly:
1 - tension roller;
2 — roller bracket;
3 - body
Install the removed parts in reverse order. Before installing the belt, the tension roller bracket must be turned clockwise and locked (see above).
When installing the belt, place it on the pulleys and place it under the tension and support rollers in accordance with the drive diagram.
Attention! The drive pulleys for auxiliary units, generator, air conditioning compressor and power steering pump are six-ribbed, and the drive belt is five-ribbed.
Place the belt on the pulleys like this...
Useful tips
As you can see, on a Renault Logan, replacing the alternator belt may be required at different times, since wear on different cars of the same make and model depends on a number of factors.
Also, if the belt is not original, its service life is strongly influenced by the quality of the installed product itself. Also, installation errors (for example, tightening the alternator belt) can cause premature failure of this element. (this also applies to rollers). In any case, during operation it is necessary to periodically (every 10-15 thousand km) check the general condition and tension of the alternator belt. Also, some car enthusiasts prefer to change the specified belt every 60-80 thousand kilometers or every 4-5 years, regardless of the condition of the belt.
We also recommend reading the article about what engines are installed on the Lada Largus. From this article you will learn about the types, types and features of engines on Largus, as well as what advantages and disadvantages this or that unit has on this model.
Of course, the alternator belt is not as important as the timing belt, but if it breaks or slips, it can cause problems with the alternator and battery, power steering, air conditioning, etc. To avoid unexpected breakdowns and malfunctions of the attachment, it is recommended to monitor the condition of the belt and replace it in accordance with the above rules and recommendations.
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...so that it is shifted to their outer edge 1, and the inner groove of the pulleys 2 remains free.
After installing the belt, slightly turn the tension roller with a key and remove the lock. Then, using a 18-inch socket with a ratchet, we turn the crankshaft clockwise three turns by the bolt securing its pulley to achieve the correct position of the belt.
More information about the design, maintenance and repair of Renault Logan produced before 2009 can be found in our Wikipedia (link)
Renault Logan: changing the auxiliary drive belt
How to maintain generator brushes
When performing brush maintenance, preventive maintenance is also performed on the generator according to the following stages:
- The generator contact brushes are dismantled.
- Afterwards, the chassis levers are removed (this will give space when working with the brushes).
- Afterwards, the fasteners of the upper frame are removed.
- Afterwards, the protection is removed from the engine crankcase. It is secured with bolts. When removing protection, you should be careful.
- When the shields are removed and disassembled, you should clean them, remove dirt and install the part back.
Preparatory work
Installation of the drive belt is complicated by the fact that it is located in an inconvenient location. There won't be much space to work with, so it's best to put the car on a lift or use a pit. There is also a protective panel in the wing area. It must be removed by unscrewing the fasteners.
Once the car and a set of keys are prepared, you can begin. Be sure to take a bright flashlight to illuminate dark areas under the hood. You will also need rags. It is better to remove dirt from the pulleys, as well as various stones that could become clogged in the ribs
Please note that it is necessary to disassemble the structure only after the engine has completely cooled down
Articles
All Renault Logan drivers know that additional equipment straps are marked with the following article numbers:
Article - 77001-11671
- 77001-11671 or 82008-3354 1 – 5K 1747 for equipment with power steering and air conditioning;
- 82008-41132 or 82000-61673 – 5K 1110 with power steering without air conditioning;
- 82002-11651 or 60015-48021 – 4PK 718 power steering only.
Article - 5K 1110 5K - “five streams”, and the numbers following them indicate the length of the belt.
If we talk about tensioning devices, you can purchase a roller with automation or just a roller. Recommended items:
Article - 82002-77606
- 77001-02872 or 82002-77606 – roller + tensioner;
- 82008-49831 – roller + bracket;
- 82001-04754 - video clip.
Article - 82008-49831 Substitutes
- 306-92(ASAM);
- QZ5PK-1747(QUARTZ);
- 05000-51110(MEYLE);
- 19879-47926(BOSCH);
- 27526(ASAM);
- 86531-0205(GATES).
- 0053-039 (FLENNOR);
- 287-69 (FEBI);
- 306-78 (ASAM);
- 6292-8769 (SWAG);
- 8653-10039 (GATES).
Article - 4PK 718
Why is there a belt tensioner pulley in a car?
What is this and what is the video for?
Despite the fact that in any city the number of specialized service centers is constantly growing, such a breakdown can occur at the most inopportune time and place
Therefore, it is very important to know how to carry out such a procedure on your own.
The first thing we see when opening the hood of a Renault Logan is the engine. But those who think that it is needed only to keep the car moving are deeply mistaken. In fact, the motor is designed to perform a number of very important functions. In addition to the fact that the internal combustion engine (internal combustion engine) is a direct source of energy transmitted to the wheels, it also ensures the functioning of a number of systems, such as air conditioning, power steering and, of course, a generator.
All of the above devices are designed to perform their function, but most of them, including the engine, cannot do without the energy generated by the generator.
The generator charges the battery; if the tensioner pulley is faulty, the generator will not provide the required charge and you will stall.
Clear and stable operation of the generator is possible only when the tension of the belt drive is sufficient to supply energy to all consumers. Therefore, almost most cars, regardless of production, have a corresponding alternator belt pulley.
Checking and adjusting tension
To make sure, you should press the Renault Logan alternator belt at the points where there are marks.
The force should be 98 N and the deflection should be approximately 7 mm. You should press with your finger almost as hard as you can.
Checking the alternator belt
If the strap is adjusted correctly, it will not make any extraneous noise, including when the ignition is turned on at idle. If the package includes an air conditioner, it is not possible to adjust the tension, so the machine must be repaired or replaced . Without automation everything is much easier. How to tension correctly:
- 5K 1110 : the screws securing the bracket must be loosened. Return the adjusting screw to the correct place. Tension and secure the fasteners back.
- 4PK 718 : tighten the upper fastening screw, check the tension, loosen the screw again and so on until everything is back to normal. Tighten the fasteners last.
It is difficult to tension the Renault Logan drive belt correctly if it is equipped without power steering. Then the adjustment may take up to 40 minutes.
When is it time to change?
Inspection of the Renault Logan generator belt consists of a visual inspection of its appearance and checking the degree of tension. The belt must be replaced if the following defects are found:
- sidewall delamination;
- cracks;
- wear of teeth and surface;
- crumbled areas;
- oil traces.
Old strap with cracks
Frayed edges may occur due to improper installation of the strap. Oil marks are usually the result of leaking crankshaft seals. Due to their presence, the product slips on the pulley, there is not enough traction, and the rotor does not rotate at full power.
Tension also plays a big role in the quality of the generated electricity; when it is weak, the strap slips and the generator does not work at full capacity. At the same time, you can hear the belt whistling. In frosty weather, rubber products become harder and even with good tension, the rubber part whistles when the engine starts. Over time, the strap stretches, so you should monitor its tension. If this is possible, then it needs to be tightened using a tensioner. If it has stretched due to wear, then the product must be replaced with a new one.
What problems might there be?
- A sign of a malfunction is an uncharacteristic whistle from the engine compartment (the belt is whistling). This suggests that most likely the pulley and belt have a strong deflection, therefore, using the tool, the belt tension is increased to eliminate whistling sounds. But if sound occurs due to a defective regulator or other problems, a new mechanism must be installed.
- The most radical option to eliminate whistling is to install a new belt and pulley.
- Whistling also occurs on parts with a broken regulator. If a whistle occurs and a malfunction of the regulator is determined, this unit is removed from its seat and installed.
- Also, the cause of malfunctions is the malfunction of the bearing elements. They break for various reasons. The owner of a French Renault Logan 1.6-liter car with power steering, when installing a new component, should rely on the advice of the Renault automaker when purchasing a new part.
Renault prefers Bosch generators and belts in this matter. It is these components and assemblies that are mounted on the sedan.
Now you can find many alternatives, but for normal operation you should install Bosch components.
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Why is there a belt tensioner pulley in a car?
What is this and what is the video for?
Despite the fact that in any city the number of specialized service centers is constantly growing, such a breakdown can occur at the most inopportune time and place
Therefore, it is very important to know how to carry out such a procedure on your own.
The first thing we see when opening the hood of a Renault Logan is the engine. But those who think that it is needed only to keep the car moving are deeply mistaken. In fact, the motor is designed to perform a number of very important functions. In addition to the fact that the internal combustion engine (internal combustion engine) is a direct source of energy transmitted to the wheels, it also ensures the functioning of a number of systems, such as air conditioning, power steering and, of course, a generator.
All of the above devices are designed to perform their function, but most of them, including the engine, cannot do without the energy generated by the generator.
The generator charges the battery; if the tensioner pulley is faulty, the generator will not provide the required charge and you will stall.
Clear and stable operation of the generator is possible only when the tension of the belt drive is sufficient to supply energy to all consumers. Therefore, almost most cars, regardless of production, have a corresponding alternator belt pulley.
Model without power steering and climate system, how to replace the belt
Structurally, the mechanism on the Renault Logan model range in the absence of power steering is simpler. Therefore, repair actions, as well as direct operation, will not bring as much hassle to the owner as other configuration options. But on 16-valve 1.4 or 1.6 engines this option is practically absent.
But there is also a negative aspect of a similar Renault Logan model - during repair operations, there is a high probability of deformation of the generator when the generator belt itself is strongly tensioned.
The generator is not located where it usually is. Therefore, it is more accessible - the dismantling/installation procedures actually do not take long.
- The actual dismantling of a broken unit on a Renault Logan and its further repair (or its components, for example, a ring or a pulley) is carried out from the crankshaft.
- In this option, you should measure the exact tension force of the new belt drive in order to eliminate possible defects in the generator, and tighten if necessary. For this, a special tester or other equipment is used to check the current serviceability of other units - bearings and regulator. But usually the tension force is determined visually for the motorist, because the use of such a measuring device has its own specifics, so everything should be tensioned correctly.
Types and causes of malfunctions
A thorough inspection of the belt can tell a lot about the functioning of the unit. For example, some characteristic signs of destruction indicate problems that will require the driver not only to replace the belt itself. Let's look at the types of destruction:
Small cracks on the ribs, located across.
Exposure to high temperatures and increased tension. As a rule, they appear due to natural wear and tear of the material. It indicates that the part has exhausted its service life by 80-90%.
Large and small pieces of rubber material peeling off from the strap.
Cracks appear parallel to the cord line. This is a sign of critical wear, when the belt has already used up 95-99% of its resource. It needs to be replaced as soon as possible.
The material is cut from the ribs and rolled into pellets between them.
Causes may include pulley wear, misalignment, or too little tension. It is necessary to inspect all rollers and adjust the tension. If extraneous noise occurs at the same time, you will need to buy a new belt.
The appearance of a shine or glossy tint on the back of the belt.
Most likely, on its way the belt encounters some part. The latter rubs against the material, leaving such a mark. Make sure there is sufficient tension and structural integrity.
Wear of the outer ribs or their partial destruction. May cause the belt to come off.
Misalignment of pulleys, which leads to distortion and accelerated wear.
Severe deformations on the ribs, the appearance of notches.
Most often, this happens due to the entry of a foreign object: a small stone or small part. It cuts into the material and, as it rotates, moves along the belt, leaving notches on the ribs.
