Welding the underbody of a car: tips and equipment review

The underbody of the car is exposed to water, dirt and road chemicals more quickly than the rest of the body. And if you drive over a high curb or asphalt ridge, the deformations accelerate the deterioration of the metal even more. By the way, from personal sad experience, I note that it is better to drive over such obstacles with your wheel, and not take them between the wheels, if the ground clearance is less than 160 mm. So, I’ll tell you how to repair the underbody of a car by welding, which devices I consider the best for this, and I’ll share the specific nuances of the welding process.

Semi-automatic welding of car underbody

I consider this method to be the best because the work is easier and completed faster. For welding the bottom of a car with a semi-automatic machine, I recommend the following models:.

  • PTK MASTER MIG 180 F15 is a simple and reliable budget semi-automatic machine for the garage. If you want to cook the car yourself, this is a great choice.
  • Svarog REAL MIG 200 (N24002N) is also a simple device, but at 200 A (can be useful for welding thicker metal, such as gates, wicket hinges).
  • AuroraPRO OVERMAN 200 is another budget device for repairing the bottom by welding, but it is capable of working when the incoming voltage drops up to 140 V. This is relevant if your garage has such problems with electricity.
  • Fubag INMIG 200 SYN Plus is a semi-professional machine, which should be considered by car service technicians and craftsmen. Fine settings will ensure comfort when working with bottom metal.
  • KEMPPI MinarcMIG EVO 170 is a reliable and durable semi-automatic machine with a graphic display. With a current of 100 A, you can cook continuously, which is important for long-term work in a car service station.
    • I recommend that the welding wire for repairing the underbody of a car be copper-plated. Then the seam will better resist the constant vibrations present on the body. Buy, for example, ESAB OK Autrod 12.51 wire with a diameter of 0.8 mm.

Types of service

Overcooking the bottom of a VAZ-2112 car can be:

  1. Using semi-automatic welding equipment:
  2. Using gas welding.

Depending on the location of the repair, the service is:

  • In the garage of a private master.
  • On the territory of the car service center.
  • At the location of the client's car.

Depending on the time that the client allocates for work, overcooking occurs:

According to the performer, overcooking is classified into:

Manual arc welding of car underbody

Welding the underbody of a car with an electrode and an inverter is slower than with a semi-automatic machine, and the welder himself must already have certain skills to control the arc (it’s easier for beginners to work with a semi-automatic machine). I don’t recommend this method for professional work due to the low speed, but for welding the underbody of a car with your own hands it is quite suitable. The price of RDS inverters is much more affordable than semi-automatic ones. If you are thinking about buying a welding machine, I advise you to take a look at:

  • TERMIT VDI-200 is a small and light device weighing 3.5 kg. It is convenient to walk around the car with it. It's cheap, but reliable. This way, repairing the bottom of a VAZ by welding will be the most economical.
  • Resanta SAI 220 is a budget inverter with simple settings. Resistant to network fluctuations.
  • Svarog REAL ARC 200 (Z238N) is a device with improved housing protection for garage conditions. It features stable arc burning and the presence of an Antistick function.
  • Resanta SAI 250PN - RDS inverter cooks at an input voltage of 140 V.
  • TOP Torus-210 Comfort is a Russian-made device with three auxiliary functions: Arc Force, Antistick, Hot Start.
  • I advise you to buy ESAB OK 46.00 electrodes with a diameter of 2-3 mm. They are suitable for welding in all spatial positions and are unpretentious to the cleanliness of the metal surface. Other welding machines suitable for welding the bottom can be found in the adjacent article about choosing equipment for a garage. If you are seriously thinking about opening a service station, also consider models suitable for welding alloy wheels.

    Price list

    Details Author: Super User Category: Sample Data-Articles Published March 17, 2016

    Wheel alignment prices*

    Domestic cars*
    BrandVAZ, IZHSobol, NivaAZLK, Volga, ZAZ
    Wheel alignment check500
    Wheel alignment80010001000
    Convergence500500500
    Foreign cars*
    AdjustmentsFront axleRear axleFront+Rear
    Wheel alignment check500
    Wheel alignment7007001400
    Convergence5005001000

    TO prices*

    Auto repairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 VALVEForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the manifold gasket (exhaust + inlet)15001500150018001400(intake) 800(exhaust)22502250
    2Replacing valve stem seals with valve adjustment and removing the cylinder head2500-45002500-45002500-45002500-4500700070007500
    3Replacing the ram drive450
    4Replacing the crank pulley/shaft350350350450450650650
    5Replacing the Cylinder Head Mounting Plugs3000300030003500360080008000
    6Replacing the Cylinder Block Mounting Plugs9509509501000125012501250
    7Replacing the chain guide45040004000
    8Replacing the fuel pumpcarb 500-eng 1500carb 500 eng 1500750 without sanitary tank 1500 with sanitary tankcarb 500750 without sanitary tank 1500 with sanitary tank10002000
    9C/o gas tank50015001500800150010002000
    10Engine overhaul12000120001200012500140001650019500
    11Block head repair5000500050005000650095009500
    12Replacing the Cylinder Head Gasket2700250025002700350046505000
    13Replacing the valve cover gasket3001501503001850550550
    14Replacing the crankcase gasket1200100010001500100014501450
    15Replacing the engine mount (pillow) (1 pc.)3503503504005008001000
    16Replacing the front crankshaft oil seal95012001200from 950190018501850
    17Replacing the rear crankshaft oil seal2500250025003500250040004850
    18Replacing the camshaft1500150015001500285028502850
    19Replacing the timing chain2300230035003500
    20Replacing the timing belt10001000170020002200
    21Replacing the chain tensioner500500
    22Replacing the chain shoe20002200
    23Replacing the oil pump2500200020002500250025003000
    24Change of oil400400400400400400400
    25C/o engine4500400040005000450080008000
    GEARBOX prices*
    RepairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacement of the gearbox assembly2000200020003000200030004850
    2Clutch replacement2100210021003100210032004850
    3Replacing the shift link75012001200750120018501850
    4Replacing the flexible coupling8501500
    5Replacing the reverse sensor300300300300300350350
    6Replacing the speedometer drive500500500500500500500
    7Bulkhead from the bathroom4500450045005000450060007000
    8Replacing the drive oil seal (CV joint)600600150060010001500
    9Replacing the gearbox shank oil seal8001700
    10Replacing the gearbox primary shaft oil seal3000225022504000225038503850
    CLUTCH prices*
    Car serviceVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the release bearing2000200020003000200030004850
    2Replacing the clutch slave cylinder500500
    3Replacing the clutch master cylinder700700700700
    4Replacing the clutch cable with adjustment550550550550550
    5Replacing clutch brake fluid300300300300
    6Replacing the clutch fork50021002100500210032005000
    7Clutch replacement2200220022003200220032005200
    8Bleeding the clutch300300300300
    REPAIR OF CARDAN SHAFT *
    Auto repairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacement assembly50050010001000
    2Replacing the outboard bearing120090020002500
    3Replacing the flexible coupling7001000
    4Replacing the rear crosspiece (on the card shaft)4004001000
    REAR AXLE car service price*
    Auto repairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the rear axle2850285035003500
    2Beam replacement4000220022005000220024004000
    3Replacing the gearbox2000front-3500 rear-200025003500
    4Replacing internal CV joint100010002000100012001450
    5Replacing the axle shaft (outer CV joint)1000150010001100
    6Replacing the axle shaft seal, gearbox drive1100800800200080010001200
    7Replacing the shank seal5005001150
    8Replacement of shock absorber, strut (1 pc.) rear500500500500500750950
    9Replacing the rear spring (1 piece)800500500800500750950
    10Replacing a set of jet rods 5pcs1500150020002500
    11Replacing the transfer case15003500
    FRONT DRIVE price*
    Car serviceVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the drive assembly600600150060010001200
    2Replacing the outer CV joint (boot)demon s/u drive-600 with s/u-1000demon s/u drive-600 with s/u-10001500demon s/u drive-600 with s/u-100010001100
    3Replacing the internal CV joint (boot)100010001200100012001450
    4Replacing the boot clamp300300300300300300
    FRONT SUSPENSION price*
    RepairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the front spring 1pc100090090010009009001000
    2Replacement support bearing 1 piece90090090010001200
    3Replacement of the lower lever assembly (1 pc.)12007007001200700750-1500950-2000
    4Replacement of the upper lever assembly (1 pc.)7007007001000
    5 Replacing silent blocks on a removed lever (1 piece)3005005008005005001000
    6Replacement of the ball joint (1 pc.)400300300400300300400
    7Replacing the front shock absorber (strut). (1 PC.) 50090090050090010001000
    8Replacing front stabilizer bushings, 1 piece300300300300300300300
    9Replacing the crab of the longitudinal extension bracket (1 pc.)400400400
    10Replacement stabilizer strut 1 pc.300300300300300
    STARTER price*
    Car serviceVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Starter replacement8005505508005508001000
    2Replacing the retractor on the starter1100300300110030011001300
    3Replacing the starter bendix1500110011001500110015001500
    4Replacing starter brushes1500110011001500110015001500
    5Replacing starter bushings1500110011001500110015001500
    6Replacing the starter bushing in the gearbox800800800
    BRAKE SYSTEM prices*
    Car serviceVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacement brake disc 1 piece550550550950550650650
    2Replacement of front brake cylinders (1 t.)750550550950550450450
    3Replacing the caliper assembly650550550800550650850
    4Replacement of brake hose, front and rear tubes 1 pc.500500500500500500500
    5Replacing the master brake cylinder7007001000800100010001000
    6Replacement rear brake cylinder 1 pc.400400400400400400650
    7Replacing the rear pads (drum) behind the axle8008008008008008001250
    8Replacing rear pads (disc) for the axle500600
    9Replacing front pads (axle)600500500600500500600
    10Replacing handbrake pads (Disc brakes)13001300
    11Replacing the vacuum brake booster8008001000800100011001100
    12Replacing handbrake cables1100110011001100110012501250
    13Replacing the handbrake rod (handle)5008001200500-1200120010001000
    14Development of 1st side caliper guides300300300300300
    15Replacing brake fluid80080080080080012001200
    STEERING price*
    Auto repairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the steering gear1650195016501650
    2Replacing the steering rack without power steering - with power steering1500- 20001500- 20001500- 200026002600
    3Replacing the steering rack boot600650
    4Replacing the power steering pump95095012501250
    5Replacement steering tip 1 pc.300300300300300300300
    6Replacing the short rod assembly400400
    7Replacing the middle link400400
    8Replacing the pendulum500550
    9Replacing the steering linkage assembly12001200From 1500
    10Replacing the steering rod (on the rack)500500500600600
    Hub*
    Type of work2101-21072108-210992110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacement assembly750750750125075012501250
    2Replacing the front hub bearing 1 pc.850100010001250100010001250
    3Wheel bearing clearance adjustment 1 pc.150150150150
    4Removing and installing the steering knuckle850750750125075014501850
    5Replacing the rear wheel bearing (half shaft)1000500500120050010002000
    GENERATOR REPAIR price*
    Auto repairVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Generator replacement600500500600600850850
    2Replacing the alternator belt300300300300300450450
    3Replacing generator brushes without removal250200200250250450450
    4Generator diagnostics100100100100100250250
    5Replacing the diode bridge1250115011501550125012501250
    6Replacing generator bearings1600150015001600160020002000
    SILENCER REPAIR*
    Car service2101-21072108-210992110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the exhaust pipe gasket800500500800500950950
    2Replacing the resonator500400400500400550650
    3Muffler replacement500400400500400550600
    4Muffler repair (welding work)from 300
    5Replacing corrugations100012501850
    6Replacement assembly1450145014501450145018501850
    7Catalyst replacement5001700500-1700500500-120012001200
    RADIATOR AND COOLING SYSTEM price*
    Car serviceVAZ 2101-2107VAZ 2108-21099VAZ 2110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Replacing the cooling radiator100012001200VAZ1200-2500Chevrolet120012501450
    2Replacing the pipe (1 pc.) next. 200 each 400400400400400400400
    3Replacing the thermostat650650650650650650750
    4Replacing the water pump (pump)950200020001050250021502150
    5Replacing the cooling fan450450450550750750750
    6Replacing the stove faucet750750750750750950950
    7Replacing the heater radiator (stove)12501400(08-99)-2000(13-15)18501250 without air conditioning185050005000
    8Replacing the electric motor of the heater (stove)10001000165012501650650650
    9Replacing heater air ducts (assembled)1200250036001350360036503650
    10Repair of the damper control mechanismfrom 500
    OTHER AUTO REPAIR WORK*
    Car service2101-21072108-210992110Niva16 valveForeign carsSUVs
    1Computer diagnostics500500500500500500500
    2Suspension diagnostics300300300300300300300
    3Engine compression measurement400400400400400400400
    4Changing the engine oil and filter400400400400400400400
    5Replacing the fuel filter300300300300300450450
    6Replacing the fuel filter (in the tank)12001200
    7Changing the gearbox oil400400400400400500500
    8Coolant replacement400400400400400400400
    9Changing the oil in the drive axle400400400400400500500
    10Adjustment of valves8508508508501250
    11Clutch adjustment350150150350150150150
    12Adjusting the hand brake350350350350350350350
    13Bleeding the brakes500500500500500500500
    14Clutch bleeding with adjustment350350From 250From 250
    15Replacing spark plugs300300300300300400500
    16Pulling the chassis650650650650650650850
    17Replacing the cabin filter350500500500350350
    18Replacing the air filter150150150150150150150
    19Comprehensive diagnostics of internal combustion engines1000100010001000100012001200
    20Replacing the speedometer cable600550650600650950950
    21Replacing the windshield wiper motor300300300300300500500
    *If difficulties arise during car repairs, the cost of repairs can be changed by agreement with the client. For prices for repairs of imported vehicles, please call!

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    Preparation of the bottom before welding

    Now let’s talk directly about the process of repairing the bottom by welding. First, the surface needs to be prepared. Ideally, it is better to sandblast the bottom to see the full picture of the condition of the metal and make it easier to initiate an arc. If you don't have a sandblaster, brush the metal to remove any rust.

    Tap the surface with a hammer, looking for ringing, resonant places - the iron is thinnest there.

    Open holes should be cut out with a grinder to solid metal, otherwise the material will continue to rot even inside the structure. Use tin snips in hard-to-reach places. Prepare cut segments that match the shape of the areas to be closed (patches). Metal thickness is acceptable 1-2 mm.

    Body work

    Price list for body and paint work at the Autoliga shopping center

    Element coloring Automobile Automobile Automobile Automobile
    middle class (METALIC) middle class (ACRYLIC) executive class (METALIC) executive class (MOTHER OF PEARL)
    Front bumper 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Rear bumper 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Front wing 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Rear wing (sedan) 5500rub 5000r 6000rub 6500rub
    Rear wing (coupe) 6000rub 5500rub 7000rub 7700rub
    Front door 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Front door (coupe) 6000rub 5500rub 6500rub 7000rub
    Rear door (sedan) 5000r 4500rub 6000rub 6500rub
    Threshold 3500rub 3200rub 4500rub 5500rub
    Rear panel 3500rub 3200rub 4500rub 5500rub
    Radiator frame 4000rub 3500rub 5000r 5500rub
    Hood (sedan) 7000rub 6500rub 8000rub 9000rub
    Hood (coupe) 7000rub 6500rub 8000rub 9000rub
    Roof (sedan) 10000r 9000rub 10000r 11000rub
    Roof (coupe) 7000rub 6500rub 9000rub 10000
    Removal and installation of mounted body parts for middle class cars
    Front bumper 600rub 1000r
    Rear bumper 600rub 1000r
    Front wing 900rub 900rub
    Front door 1000r 2500rub
    Front door (coupe) 1200rub 2600rub
    Rear door (sedan) 800rub 2100rub
    Hood (sedan) 600rub 900rub
    Hood (coupe) 600rub 900rub
    Repair of deformed elements
    Repair No. 1 - correction of damage in easily accessible places (up to 20% of the surface).
    Repair No. 2 - correction of damage with welding or repair No. 1 on a surface deformed up to 50%.
    Repair No. 3 - correction of damage with opening and welding, partial restoration of the part up to 30% of the surface.
    Repair No. 4 - elimination of damage by partial restoration of the part on the surface over 30%.
    Element Repair No. 1 Repair No. 2 Repair No. 3 Repair No. 4
    Front wing 600rub 900rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Rear wing (sedan) 600rub 1200rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Rear wing (coupe) 600rub 1500rub 3000rub from 4000r
    Front door 600rub 1400rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Front door (coupe) 800rub 1500rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Rear door (sedan) 600rub 1400rub 2500rub from 3000r
    Threshold 1500rub 2000rub 5000r
    Rear panel 1200rub 2000rub 3800rub
    Radiator frame 1000r 2000rub 4500rub
    Hood (sedan) 1500rub 2500rub from 4000r
    Hood (coupe) 1500rub 2500rub from 4000r
    Roof (sedan) 2000rub 3500rub from 7000r
    Restoration of body geometry (distortion) on a stand from 5000 rubles
    Repair of plastic parts, welding of cracks-1 cm-40r
    Professional body polishing - from 5000 rubles, amateur - from 1000 rubles
    Partial painting of elements - from 1000 RUR

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    The nuances of welding the underbody of a car

    I won’t describe banal things about disconnecting the battery terminal, etc. - I’ll tell you about the non-obvious. First, the age-old question, which should generate many comments under the topic: should the bottom be welded end-to-end or overlapping? There are pros and cons to each method. The patch strictly along the contour of the hole in the bottom looks neat, but you will have to apply a continuous seam. There is a high risk of metal deformation and subsidence. It will overheat, which will worsen its strength characteristics and corrosion resistance. With the butt method, it will take a long time to adjust the size of the patches to avoid wide gaps.

    Overlapping patches look less attractive, but it's under the car, so who sees them there?! But overlap welding:

    • possible pointwise, which means faster;
    • occurs without deformation;
    • two layers of metal form an additional stiffener;
    • the material overheats less and resists corrosion better later;
    • Due to the tacks, the patch better tolerates the “play” of the body metal in motion.
      • My opinion is to over-cook. Apply the metal and tack. Then it is welded in short seams of 15-20 mm at the same intervals. Light the arc on new metal and transfer it to the joint - this will result in fewer burns. To avoid an “accordion”, weld the joint not from left to right, but start from the end of the joint, but make each seam from left to right. See our article for even more details on welding body metal.

    How to treat the outside of the bottom after welding

    If the bottom is not covered with a protective layer, it will rot over the next couple of years. Confirmation is the service life of the muffler can - it is not treated and lasts for a maximum of 3 years. And we also have an intermittent seam, where moisture will get in. I suggest this procedure and how to treat the bottom of the car after welding from the outside:

    1. Cover the metal with body primer.
    2. Let it dry.
    3. Treat with bituminous compounds “Bitumen Anticorrosive”, “Epoxy Autoanticorrosive”, “Bitumen Mastic”.

    These are elastic products that adhere well to a vibrating surface. Pay special attention to the joints to fill the gaps. Inside the cabin, I recommend, if you have access to the joint, to apply sealant or blow it with wax.

    Price list (cost of work)

    Price list (welding works)*

    Replacement of the threshold, external part, anti-corrosion welds and points on the inside is included in the price 2000 - 3000 rub.
    Replacing the threshold amplifier 1000 - 1750 rub.
    Replacing the interior section of the threshold 1000 - 1750 rub.
    Replacing a section of the floor - the junction with the threshold 1000 - 1750 rub.
    Replacing the outer part of the arch repair kit 2000 - 3000 rub.
    Replacing the inner part of the arch 1250 - 1750 rub.
    Removing rust at the repair site 500 – 1500 rub.
    Replacing rotten areas of the floor 500 – 5000 rub.

    Price list (painting work)

    Coating the outer/inner part of the threshold/arch with epoxy primer/acrylic primer/acid (phosphating) primer 500 - 1000 rub.
    Anti-corrosion treatment of hidden cavities 1500 - 3000 rub.
    Anti-corrosion treatment of the bottom and internal arches 2500 - 4000 rub.
    Puttying the welded areas of the threshold/arch (without finishing preparation for painting) 500 - 2000 rub.
    Application of anti-corrosion mastic coating to the inside of the arch 500 – 1000 rub.
    Applying anti-gravel to the inside of the arch 500 – 1000 rub.
    Applying joint sealant 500 – 1000 rub.
    Covering other areas of the vehicle with soil 500 – 2000 rub.
    Anti-corrosion of welds and points on the inside of the body element 250 rub.

    Price list (threshold production)

    Production of thresholds for partial repairs, steel 1 mm 1000 – 1500 rub.
    Production of entire thresholds, steel 1 mm 1000 - 2000 rub.

    * Attention! the final cost of welding work is determined only after opening the damaged areas of the car.

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