Coolant volume for Lada Granta eight-valve engine

The factory recommends changing the coolant every 75,000 mileage, and my mileage is already approaching 100,000, so I decided to do this operation. I bought Sintec antifreeze (2 packs), water (2 packs), and flushing agent (Felix RUR 95).

Armed with a search, I started looking for any records and didn’t find a damn thing (((The problem with replacement was the following: unscrew the drain plug (it’s simply not realistic to get there from above). I tried to create a topic on this problem, but there were no sensible answers. In the end I gave up for everything and decided to ask the Bosch service how much this procedure will cost, I quote the verbatim dialogue: - Hello, how much does it cost to replace the coolant in a Grant 8kl with air conditioning? - Hello. The work to replace the coolant on a Lada Granta 8 valve - 552 RUR Phone to make an appointment... We will be glad to see you at Bosch First - does this include flushing? - the cost of flushing work is 10,000 RUB - i.e. replacement is 552 RUB, and flushing is 10,000 RUB? - absolutely correct...

After this dialogue, I realized that I’m not going there anymore). I went to the “garage” service, all the work with washing cost 600 rubles (400+200). To drain the coolant from the cylinder block, we had to unscrew the starter (cable box), and to drain the coolant from the radiator, we removed the lower pipe from the radiator on the driver’s side (we didn’t even get to the drain plug from the bottom, the condenser is in the way).

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It is recommended to fill the engine cooling system of this car with about 7.6 - 7.8 liters of coolant. The cooling system of the model can be filled with liquids of such brands as Tosol-TS FELIX, Cool Stream Standard, Cool Stream Premium, antifreeze SINTEC, Felix Carbox or G-Energy Antifreeze.

Tell me, what kind of antifreeze is best to pour into the grant? There are so many things listed above that I can’t choose the best one?

Buy some g12 or g12+ thread. It will be normal

Personally, I would not pour class G antifreeze into a grant. After all, this is the internal classification of the Volkswagen concern, which means that such antifreeze can only be safely poured into their cars. In general, the choice of antifreeze is simple. Absolutely always choose it with the approval of the car manufacturer and then everything will be ok. When they ask me which antifreeze is better to choose, I always answer the same thing - choose the original. Now I will answer the same. For grants, the original is coolstream nrc. Take it calmly, fortunately, it is easy to find in retail. The cooler is excellent, in all the years of my work in the service, no one has complained about it. And all because it has the approval of the car manufacturer (not surprising, since it is poured at the car plant), and the additives in it have passed the strictest European control.

And in my Grant it says (in my passport) to fill in G 12 ++, I bought AGA 12 ++, should I drain it? It says - ideal for all Lada brands.

On my grant on the cooling tank the recommendation is to use SINTEC antifreeze

On cars of the Lada Granta family with an injector, a closed-type liquid cooling system is pre-installed. Antifreeze circulates through the system forcibly, performing two functions: removing excess heat and lubricating units.

The standard operating temperature of the cooling system is 94 – 99℃, regardless of the actual configuration of the car, body type, and other technical characteristics.

Choosing antifreeze to replace

Before adding antifreeze, you need to decide on its type. Remember that, ideally, you should always only use the coolant recommended by your vehicle's manufacturer. You will find detailed information in the manual or reference literature. In most cases, the use of coolants of different classes and brands is allowed. And when topping up, use only the one that was filled in earlier. Failure to comply with this rule may result in a malfunction of the cooling system.

As for the Hyundai Solaris car, the following types of antifreeze can be used for it:

G-11. Such compositions belong to the hybrid group - hybr{amp}gt; If it is necessary to add more than 30% of the total volume, then it is better not to add antifreeze, but to completely fill in new fluid.

Accordingly, only hybrids can be mixed with hybrids, carboxylates with carboxylates, and lobrides with lobrides. Mixing antifreeze of different classes is strictly prohibited. The only exception is G12 class antifreeze, which can be added to G11 and G12 fluids. Also, you cannot add domestic “Antifreeze” to antifreeze, since their chemical compositions are very different.

Remember that antifreeze is sold in stores in two formulations - completely ready for pouring into the cooling system and as a concentrate. Pay attention to this, since pure concentrate cannot be added to the existing coolant in the car system. Even if they belong to the same class.

When choosing, do not neglect the color of the liquid. The color is intended to indicate certain properties of the antifreeze, so replace it only with an option with an identical color.

Recommended brands of antifreeze include the following products:

• “AGA 003Z” (temperature minus 40 degrees), has a red color, costs approximately 1 thousand rubles. for a 10 liter container.
• “Professional Premium” belongs to the “G-12” category, and the cost of a similar “tank” reaches 700 rubles.
• “SINTEC LUX G-12” is also characterized by a red tint and costs from 1 thousand rubles. for a volume of 10 liters.
• “FELIX Carbox-40”, a canister of the same volume with red liquid will cost the owner from 950 rubles.
• "NIAGARA", substance "G12"; for a volume of 10 liters you will need to pay at least 800 rubles.
• “Arctic Circle”, a substance with similar parameters; A 10-liter container costs at least 700 rubles.

Antifreeze from the above-mentioned manufacturers has proven itself quite well, so you can purchase it without the slightest hint of doubt.

Elements of the Lada Granta cooling system

• stove heater radiators;
• electric pump;
• engine;
• throttle assembly;
• thermostat;
• antifreeze temperature sensor;
• overheat indicator;
• viscous fan drive coupling;
• fan;
• radiator cap;
• radiator;
• expansion tank cap;
• expansion tank;
• water pump;
• drain valve of the lower circuit.

And also, pipes of the Lada Granta cooling system, metal clamps - ties.

Thermostat

The cooling device on the Lada Grant is the main link in the chain. Performs the function of a valve that redirects the flow of antifreeze from a small to a large circle. When the operating temperature is below 94°, the thermostat is in the closed position. The liquid circulates in a small circle without “entering” the radiator.

New thermostat

According to this movement pattern, the heating of the liquid occurs many times faster. When the antifreeze heats up, the valve opens slightly, starting circulation in a large circle into the water jacket line.

Most often, a thermostat malfunction is associated with its boiling or jamming due to overheating. The part cannot be repaired; it must be replaced with a new, serviceable one.

Water pump (pump)

Forces antifreeze to circulate through the jacket (system). Structurally, the pump is located inside the engine, closer to the gas distribution mechanism (GRM). Moreover, it has a common drive with the timing belt.

Water pump

The average service life of the pump is 80 – 85 thousand km. Due to the frequent violation of regulations by the driver, the purchase of cheap analogues instead of original spare parts, the part wears out prematurely.

Radiator and fan

The radiator is designed to cool antifreeze. The standard fan also performs this function, but only after the operating temperature reaches a critical level of 100°.

After how many kilometers should you change the antifreeze in your car?

Different brands of cars require filling with liquids on different bases. Let's consider how often you need to change the coolant in a car.

1. Kia Rio: scheduled replacement occurs once every 120 thousand km, or 8 years.
2. Hyundai recommends replacing the technical fluid of the Solaris model after 200 thousand km or 10 years of use.
3. On the Lada Grant, replacement is carried out after 75 thousand kilometers or after five years of operation.

Next, how often to change VAZ antifreeze. On a car, the manufacturer recommends replacement every 2 years or 60,000 km.

• Renault Logan: the composition should change after 6 years (90 thousand km).

Cooling system Lada Granta - 8 and 16 valves, with and without air conditioning

"Underheating" of the engine

2.1
Features of the engine cooling system of the Grant (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) cars determine the improvement in the consumer properties of the car at a lower average coolant temperature compared to the previous Priora, Samara and Kalina models (see 1.1-1.3).
2.2
If there is no coolant temperature indicator in the instrument cluster of cars of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) family, car owners install an additional trip computer with a function for visualizing the coolant temperature value read from the ECM.
Based on their personal experience in operating Lada cars of previous models, owners of cars of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) families state a fact: the average coolant temperature on their current cars is lower than on the previous Priora, Samara and Kalina models. This fact in itself is neutral. But due to subjective “unusuality”, it has been elevated by consumers and service station personnel to the rank of a non-conformity (defect) called “underheating” of the engine. 2.3
The term “underheating” of the engine in the mouth of the car owner or service station personnel has an obvious negative character.
Consumers put the following meaning into it: a) deterioration of interior heating; b) increase in fuel consumption; c) increased engine wear. At the same time, if there are complaints about heating, then there are no complaints about fuel consumption and wear, but the effect of “underheating” on them is actively discussed on car owner forums on the Internet. It is possible that as a result of these discussions, the discrepancy (defect) “underheating” of the engine in most cases is presented as a completely independent claim, that is, without any additional accompanying negative manifestations. 2.4
Suspicions of increased fuel consumption and increased engine wear are linked by consumers themselves to the concept of “non-optimal temperature conditions” of engine operation.
To describe the coolant temperature, consumers use variants of the terms: “working” or “optimal”. Variants of terms describing the thermal state of the engine are also used: “cold”, “warm up”, “hot”. This terminology requires comment. Firstly, the regulatory document called “Technical Conditions” and “Operating Manual” for Lada cars establish boundary conditions for the engine coolant temperature from minus 40 °C to +115 °C. Secondly, there are no regulatory documents establishing the definition of the terms “optimal”, “working”, “cold”, “warmed up”, “hot” and establishing the coolant temperature corresponding to these terms. Thirdly, a car is an object operated under various loads and in a wide range of conditions. Even in steady state, for example, when a car is moving uniformly at a speed of 60 km/h along a horizontal section of the road, the coolant temperature depends on a large number of factors: – ambient air temperature; – air humidity; – wind intensity; – wind direction; – direction of movement relative to the wind direction; – on or off state of the heater (air conditioner); – heater (air conditioner) mode; – actual technical condition (serviceability) of the heater; – time elapsed since the engine was started; – time elapsed since the beginning of the steady state of movement; – the actual degree of leakage of the thermostat valve; – the actual temperature at which the thermostat begins to open; – actual stroke of the thermostat valve; – degree of loading of the vehicle with passengers, luggage, fuel; – the gear used in the gearbox; – degree of clogging of the radiator of the cooling system with dirt. Due to the large number of influencing factors, it is impossible to normalize the coolant temperature for each specific ambient temperature, even for a steady state of movement. And even more so it is not possible for a variable driving mode, which is the operation of a car in the city. Hence the conclusion: the concept of “working” coolant temperature cannot be clearly defined, which means that it is better not to use this term due to its ambiguity. The term “optimal” coolant temperature used by consumers echoes the terms “cold”, “warmed up”, “hot”. It is intuitively clear that if the engine is “cold”, then it somehow does not work correctly (not optimally). It is also intuitively clear that a “warmed up” or “hot” engine works better than a “cold” one, that is, it works correctly (optimally). But when moving from intuitive associations to strict technical logic, everything is not so clear. The operation of an internal combustion engine is characterized by many parameters. According to some of them, “optimality” occurs when the coolant is warmed up to +20 °C (for example, according to the composition of the mixture with a coolant temperature of +20 °C, additional enrichment of the mixture is no longer required to ensure that the engine can confidently accept the load). Some parameters need to be “hotter”, for example, mechanical engine losses are minimized when warmed up to a temperature of +65 °C, but not the coolant, but the oil. But there is no direct relationship between oil temperature and coolant temperature. Hence the conclusion: “optimal” coolant temperature is a relative concept and can be used correctly only in relation to a specific engine parameter. 2.5
In VAZ engines with an electronic engine control system (ECM), the stoichiometric composition of the air-fuel mixture is generally maintained (excess air ratio 1.0).
This is ensured by the complex operation of the ECM and, in particular, lambda regulation. An exception is starting and warming up a cold engine, when the air-fuel mixture is additionally enriched with fuel. But this enrichment continues only until the coolant temperature reaches +20 °C. Above +20C the enrichment is switched off. Thus, if the coolant temperature warms up to +20 °C and above, there is no increased fuel consumption by the engine. Hence the conclusion: maintaining the coolant temperature on cars of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) families in the temperature range below the “usual” ones on previous car models Lada Priora, Samara and Kalina does not lead to an increase in fuel consumption. Moreover, due to the advantages of the engine cooling system of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) family cars compared to the previous Priora, Samara and Kalina car models, consisting in lower coolant temperature and lower cylinder head temperature of a warm engine (see . 1.3), higher values ​​of ignition timing are realized, and, accordingly, some fuel savings are achieved. Increased fuel consumption at low ambient temperatures is partly due to increased mechanical losses of the engine and transmission, which significantly depend on the characteristics of the oils used and the oil temperature. The minimum values ​​of engine mechanical losses are achieved at an oil temperature of approximately +65C. With a further increase in oil temperature, mechanical losses do not decrease. 2.6
Wear of VAZ engine parts does not directly depend on the coolant temperature.
But it clearly depends on the viscosity-temperature (and other) properties of the lubricating oil and its temperature. Therefore, first of all, the oil’s properties must match the engine design. Secondly, the oil must be heated. Too cold oil, even with wide viscosity-temperature properties, does not penetrate well into the narrow gaps between engine parts. Therefore, when starting to drive a car with a cold engine, it is not recommended to give the engine too much load at once, but rather increase it gradually as the engine warms up. When the VAZ engine warms up, the oil warms up faster than the coolant. When the oil warms up to a temperature of approximately +40 °C, the engine can accept 100% of the load. Hence the conclusion: when the oil is heated to a temperature of +40 °C and above, there is no increased wear of engine parts. Since there is no direct relationship between the oil temperature and the coolant temperature, and the coolant temperature cannot be used to judge the engine oil temperature, the conclusion is: maintaining the coolant temperature in the temperature range below " usual” on previous models of Priora, Samara and Kalina cars does not lead to increased wear of engine parts. Conclusions 3.1
The engine cooling system of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) family of cars has advantages compared to the previous Priora, Samara and Kalina car models: a) improved heating of the car interior by removing more heat from the heater radiator;
b) more precise regulation of the engine temperature; c) the ability to increase the ignition timing and get some fuel savings and improve vehicle dynamics. 3.2
The improvement in the consumer properties of cars according to clause 3.1 causes a lower average coolant temperature of the engines of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) family of cars compared to the previous Priora, Samara and Kalina car models.
3.3
Owners of cars of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) families state a fact: the average coolant temperature on their current cars is 7–10 degrees lower than on the previous Priora, Samara and Kalina models.
Due to subjective “unusuality”, this fact has been elevated by consumers and service station personnel to the rank of a discrepancy (defect) called “underheating” of the engine. 3.4
Maintaining the coolant temperature on cars of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) families in the temperature range below the “usual” ones on previous car models Priora, Samara and Kalina does not lead to increased fuel consumption, increased wear of engine parts and no other negative consequences.
Accordingly, in the absence of negative consequences and the absence of a coolant temperature standard, “underheating” of the engine according to clause 3.3 is not a non-conformity (defect). 3.5
A consumer’s claim for non-conformity (defect) “underheating” of the engine should not be accepted by service station personnel unless it is accompanied by a consumer complaint about any additional associated negative manifestation. If an unfounded claim is rejected, the consumer must be explained the features of the engine cooling system of cars of the Lada Granta (2190) and Kalina FL (2192, 2194) family.

Checking the radiator for leaks

The diagnostic process is not at all complicated; we carry it out ourselves, and if you don’t have free time, visit a service station to have the work performed by professionals.

Checking the radiator from the engine compartment side

1. We place the car within the perimeter of the repair area, on the inspection hole, and open the hood.
2. From the engine compartment side, we inspect the surface of the radiator for drips and traces of antifreeze (antifreeze) leakage.
3. We carry out similar actions from under the bottom of the car;
4. We inspect the antifreeze supply/return lines, upper and lower circuits.

The most common places for depressurization: corners around the perimeter, joints, ties with clamps.

How to drain antifreeze from the cooling system of a Lada Granta

1. The hood is open, the car engine has cooled down to a safe temperature so as not to damage the skin.
2. We unscrew 6 screws from under the bottom and remove the oil pan protection.
3. Unscrew the drain plug in the lower circuit of the radiator.
4. At the same time, unscrew the drain plug on the wall of the cylinder block. We substitute the container.

Unscrew the plastic drain plug of the radiator tank

Note to the driver!

The Lada Granta version has 8 valves. Place the container for testing below the ignition module, under the cylinder block (nut at “13”).

In the Lada Granta 16-valve, we first dismantle the starter, since it prevents free access to the plug. If you do not remove the starter, antifreeze will flood the part, temporarily rendering it unusable.

1. After the liquid is completely drained from the water jacket, screw in the drain plugs. Fill in new antifreeze in a volume of 7.5 liters to about or 8.0 liters to the recommended average level.

Tips and tricks

If it is discovered that the cap on the designated reservoir is not sealing properly, it should be replaced immediately after replacing the coolant.

Product options:

Replacing the coolant in the Lada Kalina car is complete, and now check the circuit for leaks. If it is present, then replace the clamps that hold the joint sections of the pipes.

How to remove air from the cooling system of a Lada Granta

There are several effective ways to bleed air from the system.

Purge using a pump

Method No. 1

1. We move the stove heater lever to the “Maximum” position (car interior). Be sure to follow basic safety measures and place wheel chocks under the rear wheels.
2. Unscrew the valve cover, having first removed the decorative trim.
3. Using a screwdriver, loosen the clamp on the throttle body fitting and remove the rubber pipe..
4. Unscrew the cap on the expansion tank
5. Through a gauze bandage, blow air through your mouth in the direction of the expansion tank.

It is important not to overdo it, as you can start a new portion of air again.

Method No. 2

1. We warm up the car to 40 - 45°, turn off the engine.
2. Unscrew the throttle clamp and remove the hose.
3. If liquid leaks out of the hose, put it back on, otherwise wait until the air comes out.
4. We assemble the structure in reverse order.

One time is not always enough to remove air. We repeat the procedure as necessary.

Method No. 3

1. We drive the front wheels of the car onto a hill so that the highest point in the cooling system is the “plug”.
2. We twist the cap on the expansion tank and the cap on the radiator.
3. We start the engine, it runs at idle speed.
4. We warm up the car to an operating temperature of 40 - 45°.
5. As soon as the antifreeze level begins to decrease, we replenish the missing amount.
6. We repeat the procedure until the maximum amount of plug comes out.
7. Screw the lids on.

An air lock in the system can not only reduce the efficiency of the stove heater, but also negatively affect the operation of the engine as a whole. After the blockage is cleared, systematically inspect the equipment.

How to flush the cooling system on a Lada Grant

Violation of the deadlines for replacing the fluid, the purchase of cheap analogues contributes to the formation of sediment in the line and clouding of the antifreeze.

Due to the loss of chemical and physical properties, the water jacket of the power unit is subject to corrosion and peeling.

A constantly elevated operating temperature is the first sign of contamination, deposit formation, or thermostat malfunction. The manufacturer recommends cleaning the lines every 50,000 km. Replacement of antifreeze after 75,000 km.

The volume of the Lada Granta cooling system is 8.0 liters.

Cleaning methods

• external;
• internal.

In the first case, all dirt is removed from the outside using water pressure and adding detergent. In the second case, washing is carried out inside with special chemicals.

If the flushing does not give a positive result, then we replace the standard radiator with a new one, since an excess amount of fossils has accumulated at the bottom and the corrosion process has begun.

Distilled water

There are several ways to get distilled water:

• buy at a pharmacy;
• melt clean snow;
• let tap water stand for six months.

The washing process is as follows:

1. We place the car on the inspection channel, unscrew the fastenings of the oil pan protection.
2. We twist the drain plug of the system and grind off the antifreeze. First, unscrew the cap from the expansion tank and relieve pressure.
3. After the waste has been drained, tighten the plug and pour 8.0 liters of distilled water into the system.
4. We start the engine, run it at medium speed for several minutes, and turn it off.
5. We repeat steps 2 and 3. As soon as the water comes out with a pure color, the washing is complete.
6. Refill with new antifreeze. Next replacement after 75,000 km.

Soda, acid and vinegar

Mix the indicated ingredients in the percentage ratio: 25 / 50 / 25, add a liter of water. We drain a similar volume from the system, add the “potion”, leave the car motionless for 6 – 8 hours, preferably overnight.

In the morning we grind off the waste, rinse the system once, and fill in clean antifreeze.

Special means

The process is similar to the one described above. We carry out in compliance with basic safety rules. You can purchase additives at any specialized auto store or car market.

Typical malfunctions of the Lada Granta cooling system

Used motor oils

Oils used in manual transmissions.

Recommended temperature ranges for use of motor oils.

Recommended temperature ranges for use of transmission oils.

Table of recommended oils for the Lada Granta engine lubrication system.

Reviews

Conclusion As practice shows, most calls to service stations are caused by a jammed thermostat on the Lada Grant. The reasons are different. The factor of manufacturing defects cannot be ruled out, but the fault also lies with the owner of the car.

Buy original spare parts, maintain your car in a timely manner - then the number of breakdowns will be reduced several times.

Motor oil is a key component in any car. Without it, he will not be able to fully work. There is a wide range of lubricants on the market. They differ in brand, composition, viscosity and other characteristics that provide them with special chemical properties. When choosing consumables for LADA Granta, you must take into account the manufacturer's technical instructions. The functionality of the power unit depends on how correctly the fluid is selected.

The role of lubrication for parts is great. It forms a special film inside the unit that protects it in adverse operating conditions. Oil helps reduce friction during operation. As a result, the service life of the components is increased.

The frequency of the procedure is provided by the manufacturer and is indicated in the relevant documentation. He recommends changing the engine fluid for the first time after two thousand kilometers. Subsequent replacement is carried out after 15 thousand km. The engine block will hold 3.5 liters of oil.

The lubricant consumption rate is 1 liter per thousand kilometers. In reality this value is not respected. Oil consumption is slightly lower and depends on the technical condition of the machine, its operating conditions, viscosity and quality of the fluid. Fast driving and frequent acceleration lead to increased oil consumption.

Filling volumes and oil names for different power units of the Lada Granta are shown in the table.