Clarifications on acceptable wheel sizes for Cross and Sport versions of LADA cars


Last year, sales of a new domestically produced product began - the LADA Vesta SW CROSS station wagon. Maybe there’s not much that’s domestic left in it, but the car was made here, at our factory! And from the fact that the car turned out to be successful in terms of construction, design and sales, one can only be happy for the new product. A distinctive feature from all previous models produced by AvtoVAZ was the installation of simply huge (by Lada standards) 17-inch wheels. We have already talked about them in one of our articles, and today we will look at the topic of the Lada Vesta SV Cross tire.

Lada Vesta SV Cross tires, as for any other car, are one of the most important elements. Not only handling and braking distance depend on them, but also indicators such as fuel consumption, road stability, acceleration, and overall engine power. In addition, tires affect ride comfort and wear on the suspension in general. That is why it is important to use only tires specified by the manufacturer.

Tire sizes Lada Vesta Cross SV

The table below shows the tire sizes of the Lada Vesta Cross SV.

After analyzing the table, we can conclude that the manufacturer recommends using only one tire size - 205/50 R17 with different load capacity and speed indices.

But what should those who want to install wider or higher tires do?

It is possible to install tires a little wider, for example, in this case, tires with a width of 215 are suitable. You can also use narrower tires, for example, with a width of 195.

Tires and Wheels Lada Vesta SW Cross
TiresDiscs
195/65R156.0Jx15 ET37
205/55R166.0Jx16ET40
205/50R176.5Jx17 ET41
205/45R187.0Jx18 ET38
215/45R177.0Jx17 ET38
215/40R187.0Jx18 ET38

To place the tires lower or higher, you will have to play additionally with the diameter of the disc. Everything is done according to the rule: “The higher the tires, the smaller the diameter of the disc, and vice versa.” For example, to install 65 tires on a Lada Vesta SV Cross, you will have to purchase wheels with a diameter of R15. Full tire size information is shown in the table above.

What can happen if you ignore the operating rules?

Despite the fact that the car manufacturer has approved only the above-mentioned wheels, online stores sell other models with similar characteristics and assure that they are suitable for the Lada Vesta St. Cross:

  • 5 x 17 4*100 ET43 Dia60.1;
  • 6 x 15 4*100 ET36 Dia60.1;
  • 5 x 16 4*100 ET41 Dia60.1;

By neglecting the operating rules and installing wheels of other models, the owner risks getting into an accident or encountering other problems on the road. If official models have passed the manufacturer's full test, then other discs may behave completely unpredictably along the way.

Also, the owner of a car may receive a fine from a traffic police officer for having a product installed on his car that does not meet road safety rules. If the car does not meet factory requirements, the owner may be refused repairs to the wheels, chassis, transmission and suspension under warranty.

Decoding tire sizes Lada Vesta SV Cross

If you read the first part of the material, but did not understand what all these numbers mean, now we will explain everything. For example, we have a tire labeled 195/65 R15 91 T XL. The name and model are not interesting to us, only the parameters themselves.

The first number is the width of the tire in millimeters. In our case - 195 mm.

The second number is usually written separated by a slash and indicates the height of the tire as a percentage of the width. In our case, this is 65% of the width of 195 mm, i.e. approximately 127 mm.

The letter R does not denote radius, as is commonly believed, but simply indicates that the tires have a radial cord. All modern tires for passenger cars are produced using this technology.

The number after R indicates the diameter of the rim in inches for which the tire is designed, or the inner diameter of the tire. In our case, this figure is 15 inches.

The next designation in the rubber marking is the number 91. It indicates the maximum load on one wheel or load index. In our case it is 615 kg. For passenger cars this indicator is not so important, but for trucks it is of great importance. Full information about load indices and their corresponding masses is displayed in the table below:

The letter T in the Lada Vesta Cross tire marking indicates the speed index. In other words, this is the maximum permissible speed at which you can drive a car equipped with such tires. Following the table below, you can easily calculate that you can drive no more than 190 km/h on tires marked T.

And finally, we get to the last indicator. XL - indicates that the tire is reinforced. Those. if XL is indicated next to the marking, then the maximum weight will not be equal to 615 kg, but three units more, i.e. 670 kg.

There are also other designations. For example, the seasonality of tires. Winter tires are always indicated by a snowflake. M+S (M&S, Mud + Snow) - all-season tires. Rain tires are usually indicated by an umbrella pictogram.

These are the basic notations. There are others, for example, the direction of the tread, which allows you to install the wheels correctly on the car and others. But basic symbols will be enough for 80% of drivers.

Which tires for the Lada Vesta Cross to choose?

In order to choose tires for the Lada Vesta Cross, you must first decide where the car will be driven and in what conditions. If the car drives around the city on smooth roads, then you can get by with low-profile tires. If the car is used on a primer, then it is better to take higher tires in order to feel all the irregularities less.

The noise level of the tires is also important. For a comfortable ride, you need to choose softer tires. In addition, you need to take into account the tread pattern in order to choose the right tires. At the moment, there are four main types of protectors:

1. Symmetrical directional 2. Symmetrical non-directional 3. Asymmetrical non-directional 4. Asymmetrical directional

Symmetrical directional

This type of tire is excellent for high-speed driving and is also resistant to aquaplaning. The protector does an excellent job of removing water from contact stains. But the downside of such tires is increased noise.

Symmetrical omnidirectional

This is a universal type of tire. It doesn't do a very good job of shedding water from the tires, but it's suitable for leisurely riding for almost any type of driver. But such tires provide a comfortable ride on any type of road - both gravel and highway.

Asymmetrical omnidirectional

The outer part of such tires has a more rigid structure that is resistant to damage. And the inside of the tires is designed for drainage. The central part is responsible for directional stability. However, these tires also have disadvantages - very weak vibration absorption due to the rigidity of the center and outer part.

Asymmetrical directional

This is the rarest option. Not currently produced. These tires were designed to effectively drain water and smoothly distribute the load over the entire surface of the tire. But the difficulty of using it was with the spare wheel, since for a regular car you had to carry 2 of them.

As you can see, there are no ideal tires for the Lada Vesta SV Cross. Each tire has its own disadvantages. Therefore, you need to select tires taking into account your driving style, as well as the weather conditions in which the car will be used.

Winter tires for Lada Vesta Cross

In order to choose winter tires for the Lada Vesta Cross, let's go to our favorite website of the Sibir Wheel company. Unfortunately, when searching by car, it is not possible to select the Lada Vesta Cross, so we will search by factory dimensions.

Select width, height and diameter and press search.

As we can see, there is no shortage of summer tires for the Lada Vesta Cross in our city. There were 77 tire options in the price category from 3,250 to 10,400 rubles per wheel. In general, you can choose. I would settle on some average option for 4500-5000 rubles. For example, I really like low-profile Toyo tires. They suit my driving style best and are quite affordable. But, let's return to winter tires. In the search, check the box next to “Winter” and get all the options for winter tires. And this is 48 modifications. There are both friction tires and studded ones. Price range from 3250 to 15,090 rubles per wheel. I prefer studded wheels, so I will choose from them.

For example, the Nokian (Nordman) 7 93T spike model can be purchased for 6,160 rubles per wheel. Judging by the reviews of my friends, these are quite good tires for the money. Don't forget that we choose low-profile winter tires Lada Vesta Cross, so the price can be steep! A set of such tires will cost us 24,640 rubles. Which is quite affordable money these days. Moreover, we will be driving on these tires for many years. If things go well, it will last us 3-4 years. That's all. Thank you for your attention and see you again!

Every driver should know that the size of tires and wheels is one of the main factors that significantly affects the behavior of the car on the road. Each manufacturer indicates the acceptable sizes of tires and wheels; this list consists of several options. Do you know what other tires and wheels are suitable for Vesta besides those specified by the manufacturer?

Tire pressure

Such a parameter as tire pressure is usually ignored by newcomers to our garage community. However, tire pressure is an important factor during the operation of a car, due to the fact that, for example, low pressure;

  • is a consequence of accelerated tire wear;
  • causes increased fuel consumption;
  • makes both tires and rims vulnerable to the effects of potholes.

As for too high tire pressure, this can lead to:

  • Fatal accidents resulting from a tire blowout at speed;
  • increased wear of the suspension;
  • discomfort while driving.

The optimal tire pressure is indicated by the factory, as a rule, in two places, namely in the operating instructions, as well as in some visible place directly on the car. As for Vesta SV, this information is available in the form of a plate on the end of the driver's body pillar.

Vesta factory tires and wheels

Sedan and station wagon

205/50 R17 (93/89, W/V)

Allowed to be installed during operation

185/65 R15 88T, H

195/55 R16 87, 91T, H

* Speed ​​indices: T – up to 190 km/h, H – up to 210 km/h. Load capacity indices: 88–560 kg; 91–615 kg.

In September 2016, the “Operating Manual for LADA Vesta dated 09.09.16” was posted on the official website, in which an addition to Table 1 appeared (more about this):

ModificationTire size with load capacity and speed indexes*Disk options
DIA, mmPSD, mmNumber of holes for fastening, pcs.rim width (inches)rim offset (ET), mm
60.110046J50
6 1/2J43
Sedan and station wagon60.110045J, 5 1/2J, 6J, 6 1/2J50
5 1/2J, 6J, 6 1/2J
Cross

Specifications

Engine21179 (1.8l, 16kl)
Transmission typeMT JH3 514MT 21807AMT 21827MT 21807AMT 21827
Tire sizeAbout tire and wheel compatibility
If you decide to replace the standard wheels and tires on a Lada Vesta, then rely on the full diameter of the wheel. How to do this, using 185/60 R14 as an example:
  • A disk with a diameter of 14″ is equal to 14 * 25.4 (1 inch = 2.54 cm) = 355.6 mm.
  • The height of the tire profile is calculated as follows: 185*60/100=111 mm. Add up the rim diameter and two tire profile heights: 355.6 + 111 * 2 = 577.6 mm.

In order not to perform such calculations, we post a table of compatibility of tires and wheels for Lada Vesta (left for 195/55 R16, right for 185/65 R15):

Green indicates the minimum deviation of the wheel diameter (up to 3 mm); Orange indicates a diameter deviation from 3 to 6 mm.

Based on the tire sizes selected for Vesta, we determine which wheels are suitable for the rim width:

What does the size of tires and wheels affect?

Increasing disc diameter

will improve will improveRoad holdingwill improve will improve will improveSteering precisionwill improve will improve will improveTire gripwill not change will not change will improve, but only on dry roadsResistance to hydroplaningwill not change will not change will get worseComfort on rough roadswill get worse will not change will get betterRoad noisewill not change will not change will intensifyGasoline consumptionwill not change will increase will increaseTire wearwill not change will not change will increase

If you are going to buy winter tires for Lada Vesta , then try to choose narrower tires. These tires will create more pressure on the road surface and improve traction. Remember that wide tires are more sensitive to ruts in winter. And low-profile tires make the ride less comfortable, because... transfer even the smallest holes to the body.

The smaller the unsprung masses

(this includes a lot of tires and wheels), the better the car will hold the road and accelerate faster. For example, if you put wheels on a car that are 2 kg lighter each, then acceleration to 100 km/h will be reduced by 0.2 seconds.

Attention! Installing larger wheels may lead to problems with ABS and ESP calibration (the systems may not work correctly).

What wheels and tires did you choose for the Lada Vesta? What are the pros and cons of such a replacement? Participate in the survey, leave feedback and ask questions. Let us remind you that in this article we determine the real fuel consumption of this car.

Low-profile tires and expensive 17-inch wheels, which are equipped with Cross versions of Vesta from the factory, do not suit all owners. The answer to the question “Is there an alternative?” depends on which way you want to go.

LADA > Vesta SW

Good afternoon, dear Zarulevites!
I would like to suggest a relevant topic for an article. I am the owner of a Lada Vesta SW Cross, and now it is important for me to buy winter tires on rims. However, it turned out that AVTOVAZ used a non-standard disk with an offset of 43 and requires that only this be used in order to avoid loss of warranty. The official disc costs a cosmic 7.5 thousand, there is only one possible replacement - for 6.5 thousand, and even the manufacturer has only 1 (one) disc in stock (assume that there is no replacement). Thus, the factory imposes the purchase of its unique disc at a clearly inflated price. Why not bring this to the attention of the public and ask for comments from the plant? At the very least, the factory could allow other replacement options. Judging by the forums, people install 15th and 16th wheels, risking the warranty, because the imposed option is simply twice as expensive. With all respect, Andrew.

Dear Andrey! We tried to answer your questions from all possible positions.

What consequences await the owner if you install 18-inch wheels?

Theoretically, it is possible to install 18-inch wheels on the Lada Vesta Cross. But these changes will not allow the motorist to feel normal on the road.

The width of the tires is very different from the dimensions declared by the manufacturer, so if there are bumps and holes on the roads, the wheels will quickly fail. However, installing such disks has its advantages:

  • Exterior design becomes more strict and expensive;
  • Improved road stability and steering;
  • When hitting bumps, the wheels dampen vibration;
  • More gentle conditions for car suspension;
  • The braking distance decreases;


Disadvantages when installing large wheels:

  • You cannot drive in areas with bad roads;
  • It is necessary to constantly monitor tire pressure;
  • Increased fuel consumption, as energy consumption increases when starting the car;
  • 18 inch wheels are more expensive;
  • The dimensions do not correspond to the operating rules, so small irregularities cause damage to the wheel.

Sanctions

You can pay not only by refusing free repairs. If tires not approved by the factory are noticed by a traffic police inspector on the road, he has the right to draw up a report on the vehicle’s non-compliance with the requirements of the Technical Regulations, clause 5.1 of which states: “Vehicles must be equipped with tires in accordance with the vehicle manufacturers’ operational documentation.” And this is already a reason to terminate registration if the problem is not eliminated.

Wheel markings are usually applied to the inner surface. If you put the Vesta Cross on the same 17-inch wheels, but with different parameters of offset, width and diameter of the central hole, the inspector, of course, will not be able to assess compliance right on the road. But the other diameter is already obvious, and its marking on the tire will tell you.

A diameter other than the seventeenth will also put an end to the ability to honestly pass inspection. If you completely exaggerate, extremely unpleasant consequences can arise in the event of an accident with a serious outcome. After such cases, they often order a lot of examinations and find out all the details. Non-standard wheels will emerge, and who knows how the investigators will regard it. But this is a theory.

Characteristics of standard Lada Vesta Cross wheels

Despite the fact that many people are not satisfied with the wheel design, it is very practical and does not catch the eye. The choice of such discs is not a decision of one person, but of a team of specialists. The model is presented in a neutral form without a complex structure. The wheels do not stand out from the crowd of cars. Standard wheels on Lada Vesta Cross have the following characteristics:

  • Radius R17;
  • Drilling 4×100;
  • The diameter of the central hole is 60.10;
  • Fasteners (Bolt 12*1.5);
  • Disc width 6.5J x 17;
  • Departure ET41;

The characteristics described above differ from other older AvtoVAZ car models. This is due to the fact that a large number of foreigners come to drive the company and implement technologies developed at the Nissan plant.

Reality

Real life, as usual, has some differences. I called several official Lada dealers in Moscow and, introducing myself as the owner of a SW Cross station wagon, asked for advice on an alternative to the original 17-inch “shoes”. The answers were like carbon copies. The parts department managers saw no problem with installing 16-inch wheels and were willing to offer options.

When asked directly, “What about the guarantee?” were put out and switched to the appropriate specialist. And already from the warranty technician there was a predictable answer: the wheels will fit, but showing up with them at the service station will be a reason to refuse free suspension repairs. However, everyone made it clear that this would not necessarily happen. Would you take their word for it?

Of course, you can schedule maintenance trips during the season when your Vesta is wearing factory wheels. But the very fact that dealers match sizes that are not approved by the factory is outrageous. Someone will buy them without asking any questions! And then, to his surprise, the same technical center will receive a refusal of warranty.

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