Novice car enthusiasts ask experts “whether it’s possible to skid with an automatic transmission.” Even before the automatic machine entered the lives of modern car owners, there were many debates on this topic. Some experts were even inclined to believe that with two radiators on a frame SUV, you can overcome mud and swamps.
But, after several dozen experiments, experienced car owners can accurately answer that skidding or a sharp start can only be done by mechanics. The automatic is designed for city roads and does not tolerate swamps.
How to and how not to slip an automatic transmission
Novice car enthusiasts ask experts “whether it’s possible to skid with an automatic transmission.” Even before the automatic machine entered the lives of modern car owners, there were many debates on this topic. Some experts were even inclined to believe that with two radiators on a frame SUV, you can overcome mud and swamps.
But, after several dozen experiments, experienced car owners can accurately answer that skidding or a sharp start can only be done by mechanics. The automatic is designed for city roads and does not tolerate swamps.
Running in the Hyundai Creta - opinions and subtleties
After sales of the new Hyundai Creta crossover started, many of its buyers, as well as those who are still looking at the SUV, began to ask new questions. If earlier, before the presentation, there were disputes regarding the configurations and prices of the Creta, now this aspect has faded into the background, and the point of running the car has become relevant.
Despite the fact that this point is discussed on forums and reflected in the instruction manual, ideologies and views collide, different arguments are given, but “things are still there.” This means that in the question of whether the Hyundai Creta needs to be broken in, you need to sort out all the biases.
Operating principle of the machine
The operating principle of the automatic transmission is:
Due to the fact that an automatic transmission is an independent system, almost independent of a person, it is prohibited to slip on an automatic transmission.
Attention! You cannot move a vehicle out of a snowdrift by rocking back and forth, as manual drivers do. Constantly switching the selector lever will not only damage the switch itself, but will also harm the automatic transmission.
What happens to an automatic transmission when it slips?
The consequences of the machine slipping are fraught with major repairs of the automatic transmission. As the temperature inside the machine rises, the friction force of the metal parts against each other increases.
Automatic transmission components suffer:
These are just the main three reasons. If there is frequent slipping, the vehicle will be constantly under repair. Therefore, experts say that you should not skid with an automatic transmission.
Attention! If the car owner skids for a long time, then the electronic mechanisms of the machine can independently block the engine and go into emergency mode to protect themselves from overheating.
But in the Russian climate it is very difficult in winter not to stall in a snowdrift. Experienced car owners install an additional cooling radiator on the machine. It will help cope with overheating of the transmission fluid not only during slipping, but also in the summer.
Tip #4: Pushing on autopilot
No one to help? Are there any other cars or pedestrians ahead? Is there no downward slope or exit onto the roadway?
If you are sure that the car will not run far, you can try to push it out yourself. The method is relevant, for example, if you are stuck in the country.
We open the window (so that we can quickly jump in and pull out the keys), leave the door open, set the drive mode, get out and push.
When you release the brake, the car will slowly move. If you help her with your own strength, pushing her beyond the frame of the lowered window, you can often push her out. As soon as the car starts to move a little, you need to jump behind the wheel and try to drive out yourself. It's better to practice in R mode.
The main thing is not to slip and that the car does not drive away in front of you without a driver. The method is dangerous, but effective.
Is it possible to skid on an automatic transmission (how to move off correctly if stuck in a snowdrift)
Many beginners ask the question “why you can’t skid.” What to do with a car stuck in a mud rut. Experts answer this question that in rare cases it is possible to slip, but not often and without fanaticism.
For a car with front-wheel drive, rear-wheel drive or all-wheel drive, there are rules. Which should not be neglected.
Front-wheel drive
On front wheel drive vehicles the rules are as follows:
Experts recommend keeping the wheels straight and putting something under them. It is advisable to use boards under the front wheels. The car will have a stop, and it will be able to drive out without strain.
Rear drive
Many car owners do not know how to properly drive out of a mud rut or snowdrift if the vehicle has rear-wheel drive. There are no big differences with front-wheel drive.
Only, if the car owner will use objects to place under the wheels in order to drive out, then it is advisable to place them under the rear tires. Since a vehicle with rear-wheel drive is driven by the rear wheels.
Four-wheel drive
SUVs with all-wheel drive are also not designed for long periods of slipping. The car will slip in snowdrifts and on muddy roads, but the automatic transmission will not last long.
Since the weight of a passenger car is 1 ton, and an SUV weighs 3 tons. Therefore, the load on the machine is large. It can fail faster after a few slips, while a car with an automatic transmission can withstand another ten.
Therefore, the answer to the question whether it is possible to slip on SUVs with all-wheel drive is an unequivocal no. Experts say that if you accidentally drive into a snowdrift or a mud rut, you can still drive in by skidding. But it is not recommended to specifically participate in mud rallies.
What to do if you get stuck
If a car owner gets stuck in a snowdrift or on a mud rut in winter, then he should not do the following:
The following are the rules that you need to use if your car is stuck in a snowdrift:
If the driver was able to foresee that he would be slipping, then experts recommend stopping slowly and moving the selector lever to the “R” position. Then also slowly drive back and turn onto a flat track.
If you have to automatically pull out a car using another vehicle, then this must be done smoothly. Before the vehicle is pulled out of the snowdrift, it is necessary to check whether the cable is fastened well enough.
Tow in first gear only if the cable is taut. If the driver cannot pull the car out of the rut, then it is necessary to place corrugated mats under the wheels. This will improve tire grip.
The car owner should always have a shovel in the trunk in case the vehicle gets stuck in a snowdrift. It can quickly clear the snow and get out of a snow-covered rut.
What to do if a car with an automatic transmission skids
As they say, how many people, so many opinions. Most car owners ask themselves the question: “what to do if the car is skidding automatically and is it possible to skid?”
There are many answers to this question and they are all different. Some claim that a car with an automatic transmission can slip just like a manual one. Others will say that slipping in a car with an automatic transmission is strictly prohibited. It’s worth saying right away that more than one option is wrong. Let's look at why.
All about automatic transmission
I’ll say right away that automation is designed to ensure driving comfort. Its main purpose is to move along city or flat roads and highways. If you are a fan of off-road driving, dirt and mountain roads, then it is better not to purchase a car with an automatic transmission. For these purposes, it is better to buy a car with a manual transmission.
There are three types of automatic transmission. According to their characteristics they are divided into:
Interesting! 70% of cars with automatic transmission are equipped with a torque converter. Therefore, when purchasing such a car, take this feature into account.
To understand why you can’t slip on such cars, you need to know on what principle the gearbox and transmission work. There is ATF fluid inside the box. The torque converter has two discs. By rotating one, pressure is created. This pressure is transferred via fluid to the second disk, and it begins to rotate. Accordingly, the oil fluid acts as a transmitter of rotational energy and lubricates the elements of the box and transmission. Therefore, you need to ensure that the ATF fluid is of high quality.
Important! If the liquid is not cooled, it begins to burn and create a coating on all mechanisms. In this case, there is a lack of high-quality lubrication of gearbox elements, which subsequently leads to breakdown.
A few words about the features of the “automatic machine”
In order to properly operate such vehicles, you need to know the design features of such components and the rules for their use. The main difference between cars with an automatic transmission is that they do not have a clutch pedal, unlike cars with manual transmissions. This is due to the design features of automatic transmissions, which do not use a basket, clutch or other parts of this mechanism to transmit the rotational motion of the crankshaft. Their functions are successfully performed by a torque converter.
In addition to it, the main components of the automatic transmission also include a mechanical planetary gearbox. It is with the help of a torque converter that the torque is transmitted and changed from the power unit to the drive wheels. This transmission is carried out through the operation of a centrifugal pump, two blade machines, a reactor wheel and a working fluid in the form of gear oil. When this unit operates under extreme conditions, the oil overheats and the automatic transmission may fail.
What happens in the system if the car stalls automatically?
The oil heats up when the car is moving. This turns on the airflow or starts the cooling system, which prevents the gearbox from overheating. When driving a car with an automatic transmission in a traffic jam, the heating of the box becomes stronger. Now imagine that the car has sat down in the mud or a snowdrift, or is trying to drive on ice. The torque of the disc increases, thereby increasing the temperature. The wheels begin to slip, but the car stands still. Due to poor air circulation, the airflow of the box is disrupted, and therefore it does not cool. The oil begins to boil and burn inside. This damages the friction discs and torque converter.
Need to know! Overheating of the gearbox can occur if the vehicle is skidded continuously for more than 4 minutes. During this time, the box heats up to a critical value and may fail.
So does the Crete need a break-in?
In this case, there is a division into 2 opposing camps. The arguments and opinions are diametrically opposed.
Break-in is necessary
Proponents cite as evidence, first of all, the instruction manual, which states that the Creta's break-in period is 2,000 km or 1,300 miles. And managers at Hyundai dealerships themselves warn about the need to follow a gentle regime during this period.
Overheating is quite possible, even with a fully functional cooling system, if you do not take into account the operating regulations.
Metal shavings - as a result of neglecting proper running-in, metal dust may enter the engine oil, which is formed due to friction of unused components of Hyundai Creta engines. This can lead to breakdowns in the future, because when changing the oil, it does not drain completely, and a small part of it remains in the pan.
To avoid unnecessary problems with the engine in the future, running-in is absolutely necessary.
Reduced service life - there is an opinion that improper running-in of a car reduces the service life of the power unit by about a third.
No need for break-in
Despite the seemingly obvious facts, there are many who believe that there is no need to run in the Hyundai Creta, and all the evidence is nothing more than idle speculation. And it is worth recognizing that their position is also well-reasoned.
Modern technologies - it’s no secret that current engine production technologies have moved far from those that were relevant 20-30 years ago. Then the accuracy of component production was significantly lower, as a result of which parts (pistons, etc.) needed lapping. Now, when the manufacturing error is negligible, running in is irrelevant.
Manufacturing plant - the process of producing Korean crossover engines involves running-in at the factory, which is carried out on special stands. And the run-in on the track cannot be written off either.
The Creta is being run-in at the factory, so it does not need this procedure. Is it so?
In addition, although many claim a decrease in engine life, so far no conclusive evidence of this has been presented. No one is able to prove that problems with the engine began precisely because of an incorrect break-in, when the mileage is already more than 80,000 - 100,000 km. As for the 150,000 km warranty, their Hyundai Creta will definitely cover them.
Therefore, it is by no means necessary to strictly limit yourself at first, when you really want to check what the crossover is actually capable of.
Algorithm of actions if the car skids automatically
A manual transmission is more suitable for routes where obstacles may arise in the form of snowdrifts, mud and other places with poor traffic. But this does not mean that if a car with an automatic transmission is stuck, then nothing can be done.
Here are some tips to help car owners with automatic transmissions:
Correct actions when getting into a snowdrift, mud or ice:
If you still decide to try rocking your way out of the mud or snow, you need to know how to do this correctly with an automatic transmission:
If you fail to leave after several attempts, you need to abandon this idea. Still, the “swinging” method is more suitable for mechanics, since it is not so sensitive to overloads. It is better not to abuse this method on automatic transmissions. This may not only not solve the problem, but will also make it worse.
Road grip
Frictions wear out under any serious load, be it towing, slipping or high driving speeds. The automatic transmission has a special element - a differential gearbox with a long axis running along its body. If the wheel hits a hard surface, a very strong blow to the axle is possible, which can tear it out with further penetration of the box body.
Conclusion 4. Avoid sudden traction immediately after slipping.
how to use automatic transmission
Automatic transmissions today: long slippage and short life?
I have already spoken many times about automatic transmission, and that there are several types:
They are different in their structure and characteristics, read at least about the types , there is a lot of useful information. But it just so happens that one of the most common ones now is the automatic, the classic torque converter. It occupies approximately half of the market (even a little more), the rest is shared by the variator and the robot. It is with this that the main questions are connected.
What you need to remember about automatic transmission
Guys, I have said it many times and now I repeat it, an automatic transmission is created for only one thing. FOR COMFORTABLE CITY RIDING, on good clear roads. It is not suitable for off-road use or for dealing with snow drifts and mud. Any measured “slip” of yours has a negative impact on the service life of the machine! This just needs to be remembered as a given!
If we can’t do anything about you in winter, well, that’s our climate. But to consciously climb into the mud and “fight off-road” is beyond my understanding. Of course, now there are luxury SUVs, both on frames and with automatic transmissions, but I really don’t want to drive them into the mud, because they are very expensive. And they are also not designed for this, even if there are a bunch of all kinds of locks and “electronic assistants”. If you get stuck in a very difficult “swamp” and have been skidding for several tens of minutes, you will definitely see an icon on your car’s display indicating that the automatic transmission is overheating. It can forcibly disable your transmission, and you will not do anything about it. All this is done so that you don’t “ruin” it right here (although all-wheel drive will be discussed below).
Remember the golden rule - if you like to drive in the dirt, then this is definitely a mechanic. There you will burn out the clutch at most, but this repair will be much cheaper than rebuilding the automatic transmission later.
So automatic transmissions (in large use) are a city transmission, I emphasize once again, created for the city, well, maximum for victory over a snowy yard, but no more.
Hyundai tucson 2022, engine gasoline 2.0 liter., 150 hp, awd drive, automatic — engine break-in
The maximum that can be rolled in is the bearings; if the car then goes faster, it will be by a fraction of a percent. Regarding the break-in, nothing is broken in except the tires. Cars do indeed become more stupid after a “break-in”, but only for those who have driven several thousand kilometers like nausea. The automatic transmission adjusts to the normal driving mode and the car drives the way it should have been driven right away, rather than tormenting the engine with low revs. The engine has an operating speed of 3.5-4.5 thousand and these are ideal conditions for engine operation.
It’s precisely these “Vaskas” who then go to Naberezhnye Chelny for capital and swear on the Internet about the kind of crap they produce these days, “not like before”)) say hello to the piston rings after “working revolutions” at the exit from the car dealership)
I work at a car dealership, we have a large test fleet, and they update it once every year or even less often; they don’t really want to drive their first few hundred kilometers. And it feels like the new suspension is not as soft as it could be
break-in is a relative matter. According to the manual and the assurances of the engineering staff of automakers, there is no need for running-in, in the literal sense... on Zaphods, the engines undergo a cold run-in. that is, to put it simply, the assembled motor is connected to an electric motor and turned. then flush and fill with oil. I would advise you to change the oil and filter yourself at 1000-1500 km... don’t turn it too hard for the first 1000 km. I just have a road from Moscow - Rostov) - running in as such is not needed. Moreover, if the transmission is AFFTOMAT, then it is impossible to kill the engine. Well, in fact, with a fool you can break a ****
Everything is written in the manual)
We bought a car at a Lexus showroom, and they said that the engine was already prepared from the factory for high speeds, just do everything smoothly for the first 100-200 km, as the components and assemblies are new, let them get used to each other, now car manufacturers have moved away from engine break-in
It’s an elastic concept and everyone interprets it as they want. As a rule, it is recommended not to accelerate sharply until zero maintenance, and this is up to 2 thousand km. Well, of course, don’t tow
About Creta: Hyundai announced the start date of sales of the new Creta in Russia :: Autonews
According to the instructions, 1000 km and plus up to 2 (or 1.5 thousand, I don’t remember exactly) a ban on towing a trailer
Why is skidding not recommended?
An automatic transmission is a very complex unit; here, torque from the engine is transmitted using pressure (or, scientifically speaking, using friction) of a fluid. Read this article , it’s about the automatic transmission clutch. In short, two disks directed at each other, enclosed in a torque converter, transmit torque from the engine to the transmission - one begins to rotate and creates fluid pressure, with the help of which the second also begins to rotate, as if everything is elementary.
But such a structure is a direct source of heat, I would even say excess heat, which is why the ATF fluid must be of very high quality and not burn. The second link that heats the oil inside is the friction discs; they can also overheat when rotating.
That’s why modern automatic transmissions now have a fluid cooling radiator installed, it’s mandatory! It takes the heat that is generated inside and dissipates it outside, due to the blowing of incoming air, as well as from the fan of the main engine cooling radiator (usually mounted next to it). After all, even traffic jams, without much slipping, can heat up the machine quite strongly, and you are standing still, so the airflow turns on to rid the machine of excess heat.
Now let's imagine slipping in snow or mud, what's happening?
You stand still - the car is slipping, the pressure and friction of the fluid inside the torque converter is INSANE, and the temperatures of the friction discs are also increasing. This causes the liquid inside to boil! There is no airflow, the car is standing still, the engine fan turns on, but it is not able to dissipate the amount of heat generated. That is, normal boiling occurs inside. I really want to make a reservation - this is when you skid for a really long time, say more than 15 minutes, constantly without rest.
Why is this detrimental to automatic transmissions:
Here are the answers to all your questions. This is why many manufacturers install alarm systems on the dashboard, which can forcibly turn off your transmission when you skid too much! I think this is very correct! The car maintains its assembly itself.
Video: how to use automatic transmission correctly
We skid “automatically” correctly. An automatic transmission (AKP, also known as an automatic transmission, “Automatic gearbox”) is a type of car transmission that provides automatic (without direct driver participation) selection of the gear ratio appropriate to the current driving conditions, depending on many factors.
There are several types of automatic transmission:
1. classic torque converter automatic;
2. variator;
Automatic transmissions differ in both design and characteristics. In general, an automatic transmission is any gearbox in which gear shifting is carried out automatically, without the participation of the driver, but it so happens that a hydromechanical planetary gearbox is considered to be a “true” automatic transmission. It is this type of transmission that raises many questions.
To figure it out, let’s remember - why was the “machine gun” created?
The automatic transmission was created for driving around the city, where the roads are congested, to relieve the burden on the driver and provide comfort. In heavy traffic, such a box will be less distracting, and in a traffic jam it will allow you to relax after a hard day. That is, a car with an automatic transmission is designed for smooth, cleared “urban” roads. From this we conclude that the “automatic” is not suitable for off-road use and slipping negatively affects its service life.
Often, car enthusiasts, especially beginners, do not know this and, for example, getting stuck on a poorly cleared road, begin to skid. Moreover, they use the standard method - swinging. Which is strictly prohibited for automatic transmissions.
Firstly, to rock the car you will need to quickly switch the gearbox from “D” mode to “R” mode, which is not recommended. By switching to mode “D”, the pump increases oil pressure, the clutches are activated, the planetary gears engage the gear and rotation from the shaft is transmitted to the wheels. If you frequently switch these speeds, the transmission mechanism will simply overheat and the clutches will fail. Plus everything is controlled electronically. An error will appear on the display - automatic transmission overheating. In some car models, the ECU will forcibly disable the transmission. And that's it, we've arrived. Simply put, the function is built in for the “self-preservation” of the gearbox.
What to do if you still get stuck in snow or mud?
In the “D – DRIVE” mode, slipping is practically prohibited. When you press the gas, the transmission will begin to change gears, which will lead to overheating.
If there is a lower mode, usually it is “L”, or “manual mode” - we set first or second gear. They are the ones you need to skid on.
Remember that after just 3 minutes of constant slipping, the temperature in the automatic transmission increases by 30%! After 5 minutes at 40%, this is already the limit. So after 2 – 3 minutes of slipping, let the “automatic” cool down. It is recommended to turn off the car for 10-15 minutes.
If you feel like you’ve “specifically” settled in, don’t torment the box, ask to be pushed out!
Many motorists do not know whether it is possible to slip with an automatic transmission, especially in winter. Often young people consider winter drifting a cool activity. However, there are pitfalls here.
With the arrival of the winter period, you can often observe situations where the car is in a snowdrift and the driver is trying to get out of it, skidding. It’s just that in this case the person is too lazy to take a shovel and bake his car out of the snowdrift. In this case, drivers rely on the fact that winter tires, paired with the power of the power unit, will do the job.
This method can only be used in cases where the car is equipped with a manual transmission. In this case, the car is rocked by shifting first and reverse gears. The situation is different when the car is equipped with “Automatic”. The principle of its operation is to increase oil pressure when the crankshaft speed increases. Therefore, in the event of an increase in pressure, the friction discs are pressed, and the switching valves themselves operate completely in automatic mode, which does not depend on the driver. Simply put, the automatic transmission itself performs gear changes when certain values are reached.
With a manual transmission, you can swing the car by switching gears with your own hands, but with an automatic transmission, this will not happen also because it lags a little during shifting. At the same time, the load that is placed on the box will not correspond to the required values. Due to this, it will only be possible to skid “automatically” for a short period of time. However, this is only possible if the oil in the gearbox is given the required time to cool.
Answering the question why you can’t slip with an automatic transmission, it’s worth saying that if only the clutch can fly off with a manual transmission, then with an automatic transmission everything is much more complicated. The design of the “automatic machine” is more complicated, and therefore more expensive. Therefore, any even minor breakdown will lead to serious economic expenses for repairs.
In general, you can skid on an automatic transmission, but in addition to possible breakdown, this significantly increases oil and fuel consumption. Therefore, there is no point in sitting behind the wheel and simply pressing the gas pedal. Based on this, if you are trapped in snow, you should ask other drivers to pull you out or dig out your car yourself.
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The box must cool down in case of long-term slipping.
The torque converter and friction discs are heat sources in the automatic transmission. If the loads are huge, then more heat is generated. The operating temperature can not only be similar to the engine temperature, but even exceed it. As a result, the automatic transmission car is equipped with a special cooling system. In this case, the radiator is either built into the radiator of the cooling system, or, most rarely, installed separately, and in this case cooling occurs with the help of air.
An unnecessary result may appear in the event of prolonged slipping; in the automatic transmission, the temperature of the lubricating water (ATF) increases. This liquid may boil if heated. In this situation, this fluid stops lubricating the automatic transmission parts. As a result, the friction discs break.
The friction of the clutches increases their temperature from 200 0 C to 250 0 C. This can lead to breakage of the box.
There is no need for long slipping; the box needs some time to rest. It is not recommended to turn off the engine when slipping.
If the car is not warmed up, it is better not to skid.
Similar consequences await you in this situation. The ATF fluid has not yet been heated to the required temperature and, accordingly, has not received the appropriate viscosity. Automatic transmission parts that are subject to movement without lubrication will wear out sharply.
Before you start driving your Automatic transmission out of a snowdrift, first switch to R mode with the brake pedal pressed. Stay in this position for a few minutes. Start moving in this case, when the torque converter itself fills with the required amount of lubricant and goes into working condition.
Delay transmission.
Let's take a closer look at the buildup. During slipping, a large load is placed on the torque converter, which can lead to its failure. If the temperature rises, the oil loses its characteristics, the pressure decreases - this will lead to the torque converter being cut off or the clutches to burn out.
During long slipping, you need to delay the transmission. The most important thing is to switch from R to D mode with a fixed gear, this can be done through the brake pedal. It is not recommended to immediately press the accelerator and brake pedals.
Try to avoid getting sudden traction after slipping.
Slipping, towing or long driving at high speed - all this shortens the life of the clutches.
Inside the differential gearbox, located in automatic transmissions, there are heavy gears, and an axle passes through the entire gearbox housing. If the wheel hits a hard surface while slipping, the impact can lead to the axle breaking. The part pierces the body of the automatic transmission at high speed.
So, try to avoid sudden traction after slipping.
What cars are not recommended to slip on?
The enormous heat generated in the torque converter can only be unsafe if the cooling system is inefficient. In most cases, this is observed in cars with high mileage, in American cars of the 80-90s.
You can find a box with an air cooling system in old Japanese and European cars. Vanes on the torque converter housing provide air flow to dissipate heat. It is impossible to slip on such automatic transmissions, because... Cooling occurs only while driving. Today's “Europeans” and “residents of the land of the rising sun”, who have such automatic transmissions, are in no way among those “not leaving the snowdrift”.
Tips for owners of cars with both an automatic transmission and a manual transmission (everyone will find something useful for themselves when slipping).
- When slipping, it is better to keep the steering wheel straight in the direction of travel.
- In order to move a car stuck in the snow, sometimes you need to get out and clear the snow from under the wheel. After there is a small opportunity for acceleration, you can continue your journey.
- Try to drive slightly in the opposite direction when there is a danger of slipping. Do not hurry. You will be able to get on a track that will provide you with acceleration to overcome the obstacle and the upcoming trip.
- To increase traction while driving, it is recommended to place corrugated floor mats from the interior under the front wheels.
- In order to ensure that the next time you move from a stop without hindrance, it is not recommended to brake sharply, since the tires will create a smooth surface underneath. Under the influence of rest, the car's wheels will not stop in uncompacted snow.
- A car with an automatic transmission does not need to skid in place for a long time. Try to leave “swinging”. Do not forget about the position of the selector R and D in order to switch between modes in a short time. If there are fixed stages “1,2,3”, swing in mode R and 2. Do not forget that it is often not recommended to accelerate in the snow. Under no circumstances should you step on the gas suddenly.
- A street sweeper shovel is more productive in winter, unlike sapper or other shovels.
- If you cannot get out of a snow trap without the help of others, ask passers-by for help. You will get out of it easier and faster in this case if your car is pushed from behind, and in the meantime you rock the car forward and backward, using the correct operation of the clutch. It is necessary to alternately press the accelerator pedal, then the brakes.
- In this case, if towing will take place on a cable, the most important thing is to do it smoothly, this directly concerns the car that will free your car. Before securing the cable, first check that the eye is securely fastened. Then engage first gear. When the cable starts to tighten, you can start driving out. In this situation, be careful and vigilant.
The majority of new cars on the market today are automatic. What was once a novelty is now a common convenience. Most drivers choose cars with an automatic transmission: it is more expensive, but easier to operate and much more durable. Cars equipped with automatic transmission receive great attention from novice drivers: after all, manipulating the lever of a manual transmission requires special skill, attention and experience. However, experienced drivers also choose cars with automatic transmission for the sake of a smooth, comfortable ride and significant freedom of control.
What is it - automatic transmission?
An automatic transmission is a transmission for changing gears not manually, but electronically. There are several types of such transmissions, and the features of their use depend on their internal structure.
There are three types of automatic transmissions:
- a classic gearbox that runs on special gear oil, which continuously circulates in a closed circuit under high pressure;
- a stepless variator in which there are no steps and the fact of switching itself - gear ratios vary constantly, regardless of speed, instantly and with maximum smoothness;
- robotic mechanics is a manual gearbox where the transition from stage to stage is carried out using independent electronic circuits.
These types differ primarily in the number of gears and the trajectory of the gear selector handle. These nuances are indicated on the unit casing and in the vehicle documentation. But the main functionality and components are the same for all three types.
The automatic transmission consists of the following parts:
The driver controls the interaction of these parts by installing the selector. As a rule, the designations on the automatic transmission panel are standard for different types of automatic transmissions and car brands:
- “P” Park - parking lock;
- “R” Revrse - reverse;
- “N” Neutral - neutral position;
- "D" Drive - movement;
- "L" Low - slow movement.
Why can't you slip with an automatic transmission? How to drive a car with automatic transmission?
No explanation is required here - everything is perfectly simple and intuitive even for a beginner. This is the main advantage of this vehicle control system: even an inexperienced driver can get behind the wheel. But there are still a few important rules.
Warm up the car!
It is prohibited to drive at high speed in a vehicle with an unheated automatic transmission. Before starting to move, you should let the engine run for a couple of minutes, remaining in place.
No off-road!
The gearbox is not intended for driving on difficult roads and rough terrain.
You can't skid with an automatic transmission!
Do not tow other vehicles or carry loads that exceed your engine's capacity to prevent uncontrolled increases in wheel speed. This will lead to overheating of the transmission oil, malfunction of the electronics and rapid wear of the entire unit.
Don't slow down!
Careful handling, why should you not slip with an automatic transmission?
Failure to comply with these rules will lead, at a minimum, to rapid wear of the vehicle’s automatic transmission, and at maximum, to inevitable breakdown. But the repair and replacement of such units costs significant amounts. An experienced driver feels the nuances and understands what should be done in a given situation in order to avoid unpleasant consequences for himself and the car. But a beginner just needs to remember these simple rules, and then he won’t be afraid of any breakdowns and driving a modern car will only be a pleasure.
Signs of automatic transmission slipping
The automatic transmission may not slip from day to day. At first, when the problem begins to develop, slipping of the automatic transmission is observed several times a day, repeating after three or four days.
The first signs begin with slow acceleration with the gas pedal pressed to the floor. The first step is to check the lubricant level. If it is not enough to the required level, then top it up. Fill only with high-quality and original oil.
If the slipping does not go away, then it is recommended to go to a service center to troubleshoot the automatic transmission.
A sharp increase in engine speed
The automatic transmission slips and increases engine speed, but the vehicle does not accelerate. This is the first sign of a box malfunction. For example, if the speed rises to 4000 rpm, the automatic transmission switches to Over Drive mode.
This indicates that the lubricating fluid has become unusable, or low-quality oil was poured, or the level is below the required level. The lubricant has lost its properties, does not reduce friction, as a result, gears do not shift, and the speed does not increase.
Long-term coasting
Automatic transmission malfunctions appear when the car continues to move when it should have stopped. For example, when a car owner takes his foot off the gas pedal, and the car continues to roll for some time.
Hot
When the automatic transmission slips when hot, the problem may lie in faulty solenoids. Symptoms: the driver cannot change gear, the speed may increase, but the speed, on the contrary, may drop.
The automatic transmission slips while driving when the solenoids fail. In order not to aggravate the situation, experts recommend immediately contacting service.
In the cold
When the automatic transmission is cold, it slips when starting. The tachometer will show high rpm, but the car will not be able to move, or it may start moving, but the speed will not increase. You can press the gas pedal all the way to the floor, but this will not increase the speed, although the car will roar and rush forward like a beast.
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Slow downshifts
If the reverse gear of the automatic transmission is slipping, or slow downshifting is observed, this is also one of the symptoms of a malfunction of the automatic transmission. The driver feels it like a push.
Attention! If the car owner continues to not solve the problem of slipping, then the stage of complete restoration of the machine will soon be reached. This will increase the costs of the vehicle driver compared to the costs of repairs at the first symptoms.
When switching
When the automatic transmission slips when changing gears, there may be a malfunction in the electronic control unit. Errors in software, aging electronic brains all lead to the fact that the box will work intermittently.
The driver feels shifting failures as a push or jerk when changing from one gear to another. The car starts to jerk, sometimes it comes to a stop, and then starts moving. The latter occurs when the automatic transmission disease is completely advanced.
Sounds at high speeds
The driver hears dull knocks at high speeds - this means that the torque converter is faulty. If they appear intermittently, the machine may last for some time without repair. If it happens regularly, this will mean that the oil pump gears are worn out.
Often the sounds are accompanied by a hum, rattling of the entire box, and the automatic transmission slips. In this case, a check at the service center is required.
Problems engaging reverse gear
Problems with engaging reverse gear may also be due to the fact that there is a malfunction in the box. This problem especially manifests itself in the cold season.
Switching occurs with a slight stop, the box slips. The driver does not observe a smooth ride. Sometimes we will feel a push or a jerk.
Off-road with automatic transmission.
In fact, it would be strange to get stuck in mud or snow and have to call a tow truck. The service life of the automatic transmission is calculated taking into account possible non-standard loads. On the other hand, if you skid regularly in a Hyundai Solaris, Getz or KIA Rio or just like to grind asphalt, then the automatic transmission will very soon show signs of malfunction, and then suddenly burn out.
In an automatic transmission, the gear shift clutches and the hydraulic torque transformer are subject to the greatest load.
The clutches receive the greatest load from friction when the gears are engaged.
The torque converter transfers torque from the engine to the transmission, providing smooth starting and reducing shock loads. Which is especially important when the car is slipping and the engine speed changes sharply over a wide range.
How to slip correctly on an automatic transmission:
- Use manual gear shift mode. This way the car's control unit (ECU) won't go crazy and gears won't change automatically.
- If you have to skid for a long time, then take breaks to cool the automatic transmission. When driving at low speeds, there is not enough air flow to cool the radiator and automatic transmission housing. There is a danger of the box overheating.
- Use a reduction gear if your vehicle has this feature. This maneuver on rough terrain will increase torque and reduce the load on the torque converter and clutches.
- If you often have to drive off-road, then sometimes it is necessary to wash the automatic transmission housing so that a layer of dirt does not interfere with heat dissipation.
- Switch the selector only after the car has come to a complete stop. That is, turning on the R and D modes alternately in order to drive out using the rocking method is very bad for an automatic machine.
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How does the automatic transmission work when the car is slipping?
The biggest problem when slipping is caused by gear changes. The transmission ECU selects gears based on the speed and load on the engine.
The computer controls the car's transmission only based on intuition, experience and the driver's desire to get out as quickly as possible. Joke. All gear shifting actions occur based on sensor readings. These are a throttle position sensor (TPS), a mass air flow sensor (MAF), a speed sensor, and a gas pedal position sensor.
The ECU logically, but mistakenly believes that the car is accelerating and upshifting, when in fact it is slipping.
What exactly kills the automatic transmission when the car slips? Without going into technical details, this is overheating. The fluid quickly heats up in the torque converter, since the transmission of rotation from the engine occurs through the fluid - a kind of clutch. Now imagine what speed you are turning up when the car is slipping! And imagine the loads the torque converter experiences! An additional reason for overheating of the automatic transmission is also the operation of the clutch packs, which have to be regularly switched at the command of the ECU. And clutches work on the principles of friction, and friction is, as we know from the school physics curriculum, the release of heat.
Overheated automatic transmission oil - ATF - loses its properties, does not remove heat well, cokes the valve body channels, and the clutches burn out much faster.
If you often have to slip, then, in addition to the recommendations above, you need to reduce the automatic transmission fluid change intervals.
To summarize the issue of slipping in a car with an automatic transmission - following the recommendations and thanks to the operation of the torque converter, which softens jerks from the engine, you can slip in an automatic transmission, but without fanaticism. You won't be able to skid without damaging the automatic transmission .
Is it possible to slip on an automatic with all-wheel drive?
Guys often have automatic transmissions; on SUVs they are not much different - I mean the design. There is also a cooling radiator, as well as a torque converter and friction discs. Does this mean anything to you? True, in order to carry such a “carcass”, such transmissions can “digest” more torque than an ordinary foreign passenger car, it would be beyond sacrilege - for the boxes to be the same on a class “A” car and a heavy frame SUV. Still, the designs are slightly different; in SUVs it is stronger, if you want, reinforced or something.
But its weight is different, often approaching 3 tons, but an ordinary ordinary (classes “B” - “C”) foreign car weighs about 1 ton. Therefore, it will be more tense in the SUV.
BUT! It is worth noting that such cars have all kinds of differential locks, automatic gear reduction, all-wheel drive, high ground clearance, wide tires, and finally a transfer case. All this together helps to overcome snowy yards - WITHOUT EVEN THINKING! But again, returning to rally raids on special mud tracks, where sometimes special vehicles are pulled with winches, SUCH CARS are not designed! Yes, she will fight for a long time, and sometimes you can even pass the track. But what will be the consequences for your automatic transmission? Think about it, after this it is advisable to change the oil , filter, and diagnose your gearbox. Let me emphasize once again - for severe off-road use, MECHANICAL ONLY.
This is probably why UAZ vehicles now only have a manual transmission.
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