Many of our garage comrades complain that the domestic car, namely the Lada Granta FL, even after restyling in 2018 with traditional regularity, could not get rid of problems and sores, although the current disadvantages and shortcomings are not so significant compared to the previous AvtoVAZ model of 2013 .
Before we begin the review of problematic options, let's say right away that you can buy a new Lada Granta in face-listing guise for 700 thousand Russian rubles or for a lesser amount when you come across such a car with low mileage, taking up space in the garage of one of our brothers. turn out to be a very bold, but patriotic decision.
Because only a short list of problems that owners complain about does not affect the interior floor mats. And even then, among our brothers there will be those who will say that the rugs are oak.
What are the main problems of LADA Granta
As you know, Grants are equipped with two types of engines - some engines of early assemblies have four pairs of valves, while others have eight pairs of valves. So, eight-valve engines fail their owners in inclement weather due to ECU leaks.
Very often, even with advanced 16-valve engines, generators, or rather their bearings, fail, accompanied by a sore sound in the form of a whistle.
As for the so-called swarming of crickets, according to the grant makers, after only six months of operation, the plastic of the interior hardens to such an extent that a large-scale proliferation of creaking and whistling insects begins, which cannot be eliminated in the interior space.
Regarding other shortcomings that are striking and unnerving to our brother, these are:
- rapid wear of the gearbox lever cover;
- Frequent, distracting and annoying error code signals indicating problems with active safety. But in fact, these could be problems with the seat belt buckle, or rather with the belt fixation sensor, as well as due to problems with the Airbag control unit;
- in fact, problems associated with the operation of the on-board computer require a separate discussion due to the fact that, unlike anti-Covid applications for Moscow, Russian IT stuffing cannot be boasted of;
- frankly weak noise insulation of the cabin. Moreover, external sounds penetrate into the cabin not only when driving at high speeds on federal highways, but also even in conditions of measured traffic on city roads;
- the appearance of rust in doorways;
- In addition to the whistle of interior crickets, the front disc brakes often begin to whistle. Which is annoying to such an extent that the pads have to be changed almost every 15 thousand mileage;
- if a whistle is heard in the cabin and from the front end, then the operation of the transmission is accompanied by the whine of gears, which also contributes to the appearance of nervousness among users of these facelifted Grants.
Results
LADA Granta rightfully occupies a leading position in terms of sales in Russia. The car is easy to maintain, relatively comfortable, and the handling is not as terrible as it might seem.
The suspension is very energy-intensive, the engines are reliable and time-tested, although the manual transmission makes that unforgettable rumble, simplicity and reliability prevail over noise.
There is also nothing wrong with the metal and its processing; Granta does not become covered with saffron milk caps after 5 years of use, as was the case with some specimens of the Kalina and Samara-2 family.
Simplicity, reliability and price are what Granta can be praised for.
Disadvantages not eliminated by restyling Grants FL
As for the front end, despite the appearance of a rubber hood seal and the “moving” of the injectors from the hood to the windshield frill, as well as the elevation of the hood cover in front of the glass, it is by no means impossible for dirt to get into the engine compartment and onto the middle and upper parts of the windshield.
Moving the rear license plate from the buffer to the trunk lid of the sedan did not prevent the sign from getting stuck by both snow and dirt. For which now, with the introduction of video recording of violations on highways, violations are assigned not virtual, but real, which costs quite hefty fines on the roads by the traffic police inspector.
With an increase in the gear ratio of the main gear pairs, both the manual transmission and the Granta FL automatic transmission, namely from 3.71 to 3.94, this resulted in negative consequences in the form of:
- increased fuel consumption;
- transition to a more expensive original gear lubricant;
- increasing vibration load during acceleration.
As for the acceleration characteristics of the restyled model (improved by 0.6 seconds to hundreds), even the presence of a 106-horsepower petrol engine in the maximum Granta FL assembly, again, did not at all solve the problem of insufficient acceleration dynamics during the overtaking procedure on high-speed highways.
At the same time, even the rejection of 13-inch wheels in favor of 15-size shoes, as well as a reduction by a third in the gear shift time of the AMT due to the limited throttle response of the engine, did not actually increase the acceleration dynamics.
The refusal to use hydraulic telescopic struts in systems of both front and rear suspension of the chassis to the body in favor of gas shock absorbers did not adequately improve the ride comfort of Grants FL off-road.
In general, no matter how the systematization of the shortcomings of the FL Grant is carried out, in the end, they all come down to assembly problems traditional for Russians.
What has changed in the technical part?
Engineers claim that the Granta's handling has become better and this was achieved by adjusting the suspension and power steering. But in practice, things are more ordinary, the difference with the pre-Restyle is minimal.
The platform itself is outdated and its settings cannot be changed: unclear steering, large rolls when turning - this will remain so until the transition to a new platform.
There has been a positive change in engines; in Grant they began to use plugless pistons. After all, previously, even with timely replacement of the timing belt, the owner could not rely on the quality of the purchased spare parts, and a broken belt threatened to cost a lot of money on repairs.
In the base we have a good old eight-valve engine with a power of 87 hp, but by paying a small amount you can get a 16-valve, 106-horsepower engine, and with such an engine the Grant will accelerate in 10.5 seconds, which is a pretty good indicator.
1.6l. (87 hp) / 1.6 l. (98 hp) 1.6 l. (106 hp)
The Grant is equipped with a robotic transmission, a manual transmission and an automatic transmission from Jatco . The automatic transmission is paired with a 98-horsepower engine, and although the number of cars sold with automatic transmission is minimal, it is a decent option, suitable for urban driving.
As for the manual transmission, there are no special changes here, yes, the presence of a cable reduces vibrations, but the sound from the box has not changed, it still howls and hums.
When it comes to sound insulation and comfort, it’s not all that simple. Noise insulation has become better at the level of the same Koreans, but the degree of noise and vibration is very high, vibration is an integral companion of the Lada Granta, it is everywhere, both in motion and at idle.
Regarding the national characteristics of the Russian assembly Grants FL
Despite the fact that AvtoVAZ specialists studied the technologies and equipment of assembly lines, both Nissan and Renault failed to achieve acceptable assembly quality.
As for the main problems that one way or another relate to the assembly, this is expressed by poor quality:
- fasteners, especially components and equipment of the engine compartment, requiring periodic tightening with keys or screwdrivers, almost every 5 thousand mileage;
- weld seams, which is why Grant FL owners can often be seen queuing for welding services;
- paint coatings.
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LADA Granta FL (AD) what are the main disadvantages that make it not worth buying?
Today Lada Granta is AvtoVAZ's flagship in sales. This is an absolute bestseller, there has never been anything like it before, the car is selling with a bang! But everyone who bought this car faces a number of problems that may be unacceptable in 2022.
AvtoVAZ considers this normal. If you want to drive a new and cheapest car, you will endure these disadvantages, which I will tell you about today. I won’t talk about the cheap plastic, which is simply disgusting in the interior. I will tell you exactly about the main shortcomings of this car that will simply infuriate you. How the non-retractable glass in the door on Grant infuriates me!
FL or AD, if you look at the letters in Russian under the English ones, you will immediately understand what awaits you if you buy this car! This is a coded message from VAZ brandologists. FL means Lada Granta with an updated design in the style of Vesta with the letter X on the hood. They put a cross on us!
The main disadvantages of the Lada Granta FL: 1. Howling manual gearbox. This problem is familiar even with the VAZ 2108; there is no way to fix it. And God forbid someone buys you a car on Robot! Then take the Automatic with a 4-mortar Jatko!
2. Not enough space in the back row. It is because of this problem that the car is not very popular in taxis. But even at home, you won’t be pleased to rest your knees on the seats of the front passengers.
3. Annoying little things. An inexperienced car enthusiast who has driven a classic Granta will not be frightened by these problems. But for those who have already driven an old foreign car, it will be wild for them. Foggy headlights and fanlights of a new car, nuts and screws stick out and look at you here and there. The turn signal indicators are faltering and there will be minor breakdowns all the time. Everything needs to be anticorroded! Make noise yourself, etc.
4. Weak security for 2022. Yes, this is no longer a 10ka or a Priora, but it’s not a Vesta either. The Granta has 8 points in the crash test, Vesta has 15, the difference is obvious. Choose Vesta, it's smarter.
5. High fuel consumption of 11 liters in mixed mode. Consumption is truly high, Vesta is lower and many of its classmates are lower than Priora! On Solaris from 6 liters, on Polo 6.5, and on Granta 11!
6. Car flashing is necessary immediately after purchase. The fact is that the car stalls and has the famous lag when operating the gas pedal. This can only be solved by firmware! And the firmware costs from 3 to 5 thousand.
Well, do you still want to save money by buying Grant??? It's all so unpleasant!
SUMMARY: You bought a new Lada Granta and then Noise, Firmware, Tinting, Anticorrosive, Signaling, Music, lubrication of components and hinges, etc. Prepare another 50,000 for everything, plus minor shortcomings in the near future that will pop up like mushrooms after rain.
That is, here you can already look at Vesta, which does not have such sores and shortcomings, and even has 15 safety points! It’s worth thinking about, maybe you’ll have enough money for a foreign car.
I try to find the most pressing auto problems that are worth your attention so you can buy the best car on the market!
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Interior changes
The interior began to look better, again it is compared with Vesta, although there is a lot from Kalina, for example, the dashboard, which was decorated with relief inserts. The materials remain the same - simple plastic and fabric on the seats.
The chairs have slightly changed their form factor and received two-tone upholstery. There is no more free space, but the platform and seating arrangement are still the same.
We installed a new steering wheel for the Lada Granta FL, which is familiar to the owners of the second Priora. They also installed a new instrument panel with a familiar architecture. These are deep wells with dials that are not the most readable, and the design of the on-board computer has been updated.
They even changed the lighting, because we had to install ERA-GLONASS.
A new radio with a small monitor is installed on the center console - old technology, but it will not be in the base, instead there is a usual place for the radio, which you need to install yourself. Another stove block with three washers was installed. They also removed the cigarette lighter, leaving a regular socket instead.
It is also worth noting the West gearbox lever, regardless of whether it is a mechanic or a robot.
So, 5 bodies – 5 trunks:
- sedan - 520 liters;
- hatchback – 240 liters;
- liftback - 435 liters;
- station wagon - 360 liters.
Body weight
AvtoVAZ stopped production of Kalina and instead created the Granta hatchback. There's nothing wrong with that, just some future confusion. There are 5 body versions in the line, which is really a lot:
- sedan;
- hatchback;
- liftback;
- station wagon;
- Cross station wagon.
Dimensions of the Lada Granta sedan:
- length – 4268 mm;
- width – 1700 mm;
- height – 1500 mm;
- wheelbase – 2476 mm;
- ground clearance - 180 mm.
The length of the hatchback is 342 mm shorter, the liftback is 18 mm shorter. The station wagon has gained 38 mm in height, and the length is 150 mm shorter than the sedan. The Cross version is slightly longer than the station wagon and is 8 mm higher due to the ground clearance.
Surprisingly, the sedan is cheaper, although less metal is used in the hatchback, just like when the fifth Polo sedan was released.