The procedure for adapting the throttle valve zero on LADA


There was a problem, as I wrote earlier, the car pecked when cold, and reacted inadequately to the gas pedal - jerkily. I carried out the procedure for adapting the throttle valve zero and adapting the misfire diagnostic function. The adaptation procedure is indicated in the technological instructions (TI 3100.25100.12056) pp. 4-5 (you’ll notice). In general, an extremely useful book, I highly recommend you read it. There are also error codes and solutions.

Throttle valve zero adaptation procedure:

— with the car stationary, you must turn on the ignition, wait 30 seconds, turn off the ignition, wait until the main relay turns off (3 minutes).
Adaptation will be interrupted if: — the engine is cranking; — the car is moving; — the accelerator pedal is pressed; — engine temperature below 5 °C or above 100 °C; — ambient air temperature below 5 °C. Procedure for adapting the misfire diagnostics function:
— warm up the engine to operating temperature (value of the “Coolant temperature” parameter = 60...90 °C); — accelerate the car in 2nd gear until increased crankshaft speed is reached (the value of the parameter “Engine crankshaft rotation speed” = 4000 min-1) and apply engine braking (“Engine crankshaft rotation speed” = 1000 min-1); - Perform engine braking six times in one trip.

Yes, I did not expect such an effect from such a simple procedure, and the dealer told me to accept it (at AvtoVAZ).

The jerking has disappeared, the smoothness of the ride is simply excellent. I advise everyone to carry out this procedure, you may not recognize your car!

Maybe it will be useful to someone! If the gear changes are jerky, you constantly nod, when starting off the car jerks as if it was the first time you got behind the wheel, the speed fluctuates. It is necessary to adapt the throttle, and this is not written in the instructions.

The following conditions must be met:

1.The engine temperature must be at least 5 degrees. and not higher than 90. 2. The temperature outside is not lower than 5 degrees.

The procedure for adapting the throttle valve zero on Lada Vesta and XRAY

Jerking when changing gears or when starting the car. In some cases, adapting the throttle valve zero and adapting the misfire diagnostic function will help solve these problems. The adaptation process does not require special equipment and can be done with your own hands.

Mass air flow sensor or crankshaft position sensor

Failure of these sensors can also cause the engine to run rough. Incorrect data on the amount of air entering the engine leads to incorrect opening times of the injectors and, as a result, incorrect preparation of the fuel mixture. The crankshaft position sensor can also cause confusion, due to which the moment of opening the injectors and the formation of a spark in the spark plugs will be chosen incorrectly. Hence the uneven operation of the engine with dips when picking up speed. Diagnostics will help determine the faulty sensor. This sensor will have to be replaced.

When and how to do it yourself

When to do it

adaptation of the throttle valve zero and adaptation of the misfire diagnostic function:

  • After replacing the ECU controller or resetting the controller using a scan tool.
  • After replacing the throttle assembly.

Throttle zero adaptation procedure

:

  • When the car is stationary, you must turn on the ignition, wait 30 seconds, turn off the ignition, wait until the main relay turns off.

Adaptation will be interrupted

, If:

  • the engine turns over;
  • the car is moving;
  • the accelerator pedal is pressed;
  • engine temperature is below 5 °C or above 100 °C;
  • Ambient temperature is below 5 °C.

Adaptation procedure

Misfire diagnostic functions:

  • warm up the engine to operating temperature (parameter value “Coolant temperature” = 60...90 °C);
  • accelerate the car in 2nd gear until higher crankshaft speeds are reached (parameter value “Engine crankshaft speed” = 4000 min-1) and perform engine braking (“Engine crankshaft speed” = 1000 min-1);
  • Perform engine braking six times in one trip.

The adaptation procedure is specified in the technological instructions (TI 3100.25100.12056) for Lada Vesta (download) and XRAY (download).

Disadvantages of the interior

The new Lada Vesta at first does not raise any questions about the interior, but over time some assembly problems may appear. Most often, these are crickets and creaking parts - a clear sign that the manufacturer has saved on seals. The steering wheel cover also leaves much to be desired - the paint wears off very quickly.

The disadvantages of the Lada Vesta's interior are complemented by the low quality of plastic: the parts are hard and look cheap. Although the owners say that such material is more convenient to wipe off dust.

Putting aside complaints about materials, you need to pay attention to the weak points of the dashboard: poor data readability, some additional indicators are too small, and the view of the upper part of the instruments is partially obscured by the edge of the “well” and the steering wheel. Dashboard


Dashboard

But the comfort of the Lada Vesta can be classified more as an “advantage”, but this is if you close your eyes to the awkward driver’s armrest and the lack of it for the front passenger.

Owner reviews

Owners of LADA XRAY who independently performed the throttle valve zero adaptation procedure note that the car stopped twitching and acceleration became smooth.

Some reviews from Drive2.ru (link to post):

I don’t know about others...But it REALLY helped me! Not long ago I got into an Xray and thought that I had forgotten how to drive a manual transmission! There were jerks with almost every shift. Yesterday I read the post and after work I spent 5 minutes on this procedure... And lo and behold, he stopped twitching! Today, driving around the city was absolutely fantastic... even the consumption dropped... but I think it’s due to the change in pedaling... So I definitely recommend doing it.

It really works! This morning I did this operation and the car drove much better, especially at low speed. Why is this not done during pre-sale preparation?

I’ve been suffering with this problem for half a year, but here it’s 3 minutes! I even wrote to AvtoVAZ, they sent me... to the dealer.) Now, after carrying out the above mentioned manipulations, I’m driving for the second day without twitching!

In the morning I carried out these manipulations at an ambient temperature of -10 and an engine temperature of 50 degrees. The car is unrecognizable - all the twitching is gone. Acceleration became smooth, and fuel consumption seemed to drop slightly. I rode all day long.

Let us remind you that we previously published an information letter from AvtoVAZ, which tells us what to do in case of vibrations and jerks when starting a LADA car.

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Vesta, X-Ray, Largus - information

Vesta, X-Ray, Largus - information

#1 Post by Sergey » 04/25/2018, 21:29

All Vest and X-Ray owners are aware of the problem that has plagued these cars since the day they were created: loss of traction from low revs during acceleration. This manifests itself as dives and jerks after changing gears and when driving at low speeds, the effect is especially pronounced in 1st and 2nd gears.

More details in the attached article.

I had to collect this material because... Some people are trying to prove to me that they only twitch in my firmware. I declare once again - I know perfectly well how they drive on stock, I know perfectly well how they wobble in these modes, the only difference is that on some cars this manifests itself more strongly, on others less so. There are no twin cars at VAZ. so someone will be lucky.

PS This information letter was found, I am attaching it in the archives.

I will post other materials in this topic.

Reports on replacing firmware with those specified in the information letter: https://club.motor-master.ru/viewtopic.p. &start=390

Re: Vesta and X-Ray, information

#2 Post by Sergey » 04/25/2018, 10:07 pm

Some more information.

“Central unit of body electronics Lada Vesta and XRAY (description, reviews)” https://xn--80aal0a.xn--80asehdb/car-de. tzyvy.html

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DC2133-8201279378Side impact sensor for Duster airbags, etc. original 8201279378Original1100 / 800 rub. Discount: 600 rub. 1
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DC2137-7700422630Reverse sensor Duster, etc. (2 contacts, oval connector) original 7700422630Original1500 / 1200 rub. Discount: 1000 rub. 1
DC2138-8200209496Reversing sensor Duster, etc. (2 contacts, rectangular connector) original 8200209496Original1400 / 1100 rub. Discount: 800 rub. 1
DC2221-438285Starter Vesta, Largus, X-ray, Granta, etc. VAZ-2190,1117,1118,1119,2170 (manual transmission with cable drive) VALEO 438285Analogue5200 / 4900 rub. Discount: 4500 rub. 1
DC2253-7700427640Door limit switch (switch) analogue 7700427640 AVTOGRADAnalogue600 / 400 rub. Discount: 300 rub. 7
intro iso fr-12Adapter for connecting a radioINTRO500 / 450 rub. Discount: 400 rub. 0
DC3038mm L-shaped key for Renault oil plug200 / 100 rub. Discount: 70 rub. 0
multi-cl590On-board computer Multitronics CL590 (without voice synthesizer)Multitronics7000 / 6300 rub. Discount: 5900 rub. 0
DC565Outdoor small antenna (universal)China700 / 600 rub. Discount: 400 rub. 0
DC314Case for glasses (eyeglass case) with bracket and parts for installation (original)Original2500 / 2000 rub. Discount: 1700 rub. 0
DC1610Large red shock absorber support cup cover (Sport)Analogue350 / 200 rub. Discount: 100 rub. 0
DC689Anti-theft protection with lock for OBD2 connector5000 / 4000 rub. Discount: 3500 rub. 0
DC1134-7700427640Door limit switch (switch) original 7700427640Original800 / 500 rub. Discount: 400 rub. 0
DC2374-35025Repair book for VAZ LADA Vesta1700 / 1400 rub. Discount: 1300 rub. 0
DC1734Device for fixing camshafts and phase shifter Renault / Lada / Nissan 2.0 F4R, etc.6500 / 5300 rub. Discount: 4900 rub. 0
DC2470-75361Book Examination Tickets categories A, B, M300 / 250 rub. Discount: 200 rub. 0
DC2464-11001Book Traffic Rules with comments for everyone in understandable language500 / 250 rub. Discount: 200 rub. 0
INTRO-PT-04Parking sensors with rear view camera included (black)INTRO5200 Discount: 5200 rub.0
Incar-VDRRear view mirror with DVR and monitorINTRO25000 / 19900 rub. Discount: 19,000 rub. 0
DC1166Shock absorber support cup cover, smallOriginal700 / 500 rub. Discount: 350 rub. 0
INTRO-PT-05Parking sensors with rear view camera included (gray)INTRO5200 Discount: 5200 rub.0
DC1717Fuel pump cap puller 3-leggedAnalogue1500 / 1100 rub. Discount: 900 rub. 0
VR-518DVR VR-518INTRO3600 Discount: 3600 rub.0
DC129Rear view mirror with DVR and rear view camera includedChina8500 Discount: 8500 rub.0
DC1960Tray for the battery (mat tray for the battery) Largus, Vesta, etc.Original300 / 200 rub. Discount: 150 rub. 0
DC2121-8200263342Brown relay 4 contacts 20A PTF, washer, etc. Renault original 8200263342Original900 / 600 rub. Discount: 400 rub. 0
DC2130-8200351488Relay blue 4 pin 70A Renault original 8200351488Original600 / 400 rub. Discount: 250 rub. 0
DC1775-VDC118Rear view camera SWAT VDC-118 / in standard place LADA Vesta, X-Ray, Kalina3000 / 2700 rub. Discount: 2500 rub. 0
DC1821Adapter for steering wheel and joystick buttons for Lada/Renault and radios with built-in steering interface2300 / 1800 rub. Discount: 1400 rub. 0
DC1721Kit for replacing ignition coil bolts with studs and nuts (set for 4 coils)1200 / 900 rub. Discount: 800 rub. 0
DC2127-8200841587Relay blue 4 pin 40A Renault original 8200841587Original1300 / 900 rub. Discount: 700 rub. 0
DC059Filter mesh for the cabin air intake (smooth)600 / 600 rub. Discount: 300 rub. 0
DC306-6001548677Silent bolt (silent lock) Renault original art. 6001548677 Original1500 / 900 rub. Discount: 700 rub. 0
DC653On-board computer Ancel (Ankel)China3800 / 3200 rub. Discount: 2700 rub. 0
DC6422.4G Wireless RCA Video Transmitter-Receiver (Camera to Monitor Kit)China1700 / 1300 rub. Discount: 1000 rub. 0
VCO-2-02Headrest with monitor for Renault Duster (black)China8800 Discount: 8800 rub.0
VCO-1-02DVR VICO-TF2 PREMIUM for Renault DusterVICO5900 Discount: 5900 rub.0
VCO-1-01DVR VICO-SF2 for Renault DusterVICO4700 Discount: 4700 rub.0
VCO-1-03DVR VICO-TF2+ PREMIUM for Renault DusterVICO6700 Discount: 6700 rub.0
VCO-1-04DVR VICO-WF1 for Renault DusterVICO8000 Discount: 8000 rub.0
VCO-2-01Headrest with monitor for Renault Duster (gray)China7800 Discount: 7800 rub.0

Knocks in the suspension

Stabilizer struts are inexpensive, 1000–1500 rubles per pair, but are covered by a guarantee.

Stabilizer struts are inexpensive, 1000–1500 rubles per pair, but are covered by a guarantee.

Levers on Vesta generally have a good service life. Stabilizer struts and shock absorbers are sources of extraneous noise. The first ones sometimes did not last even 10,000 km.

Due to the fact that loose hinges are easily and clearly diagnosed, there were no problems with replacement under warranty. And again, AVTOVAZ eventually offered a reinforced version. As in the case of bushings, people's ingenuity has picked up a lot of foreign-made replacements.

The racks of the official vehicle began to knock at 43,000 km. We opted for the original, believing that it had become stronger. We've already passed 35,000 km - they're silent.

Extraneous noise from shock absorbers passed us by, but, judging by the forums, they occur quite often. Here the situation is more complicated. Typically, the dealer agrees to replace parts only when oil leaks become clearly visible on them. If the shock absorbers look dry, they try to kick the client. You can’t even hope to check on a vibration stand to compare the characteristics with the standard ones: it’s not practiced.

Electronic throttle device for Lada Vesta.

The electronic throttle system uses two throttle position sensors. TPS are part of the electrically driven throttle valve.

The TPS is a potentiometric type resistor, one of the terminals of which is supplied with a reference voltage (5 V) from the controller, and the second is supplied with ground from the controller. From the pin connected to the moving contact of the potentiometer, the TPS output signal is supplied to the controller. The controller controls the position of the throttle valve electrically, in accordance with the position of the accelerator pedal. Based on the TPS readings, the controller monitors the position of the throttle valve.

Refinement of a new electronic gas pedal

There are two options for modifying the pedal:

On the lever of the removed pedal module, you can saw off a protrusion 2-3 mm thick, and then the amplitude of movement of the pedal will increase, acceleration can be carried out by hitting the lever “to the floor”.

The second option with which you can modify the part is to change the internal design. For this:

  1. Before removing the module, start the engine, place a ruler next to the part, and measure the position of the edge of the pedal.
  2. Smoothly lower the lever until you hear the growl of the motor.
  3. Record the idle distance of the part.
  4. Turn off the engine, tighten the handbrake, remove the negative from the battery.
  5. Remove the gas module.
  6. Using a Phillips screwdriver, remove the cover securing screws and the cover itself.
  7. Using the same screwdriver, remove the rheostat slider mount and set it aside.
  8. Remove the board - you will see springs underneath.
  9. Hold the spring with a screwdriver and remove it.
  10. Measure the distance between the support pad and the rubber in the body, while moving the pedal to the idle value.
  11. Place material under the platform with a thickness equal to the distance obtained in the previous step.
  12. Assemble the module and install it in place.
  13. Perform the check - start the engine. The idle speed should remain at the same level. If this is not the case, disassemble the module and remove several layers of padding.
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