This music will last forever if I don't change the seal
Thanks to VAZ’s “innovative” side door glass seals, the road in a Lada Granta is never boring. This is especially evident in winter, when these same seals “tann”, turning into “plastic”, and the glass in them simply dangles, producing a “melodic” rattling sound on bumps.
When the windows are tightly closed, the rattling is not so strong and does not always appear. But the problem is that while driving, the windows tend to lower themselves by 0.5-1.0 cm. I don’t know how to explain this, maybe from shaking while driving. However, this does not make it any easier, because they begin to rattle again. In order not to listen to this “music”, you have to turn them up again and again. Fortunately, I have electric windows in front. There you just need to use a button, but on the rear doors there are “oars” that need to be turned.
At least walk
In the city of Zlatoust, about 60% of the territory is occupied by the private sector, and the roads there are dirt, consisting of crushed stone mixed with earth. Driving on such a road is not much fun. If you have ever driven on a washboard, you will understand what I mean. It would be nice to “shake up” on such a path once again, but the specifics of working in a taxi forces you to ride over such potholes many times a day. If you add to such a shake the unbearable rattling sound that the car makes, you just want to walk. How to deal with this? I can’t “win” the road, so we will “fight” with the source of the chatter.
Photo 1: Lada Granta before starting diagnostics
Which hose to use and what length
As mentioned above, the windshield washer hose is used as a seal. It can be found at any auto parts store. The washer hose can be of a certain length, cut and packaged, or can be sold by the meter (by the meter is the best option). The main thing is that the sections of hose inserted into the side window seals are solid and not made up of scraps.
On the Internet you can hear a lot of advice about the length of the hose. Some say the length is 4.5 meters, for others 5 meters is enough. But when I measured the length of the hose on my Grant, it came out to 1.5 meters for the front doors and 1.4 meters for the rear. In total, four doors required 5.8 meters. How did I take the measurements? I simply took the hose and applied it to the seal into which it would be inserted. Then I measured the resulting length with a tape measure and this is what happened. Below is a photo of the hose measurement for the front door:
And here is a photo of measuring the hose for the rear door:
Why is there such a difference in size from what I learned from the videos I watched earlier? They probably have different window openings on Grant :)) (just kidding). Actually I do not know. But, as they say, you can’t argue with facts. I trust my measurements, so I had to go to the store again and buy additionally the missing meters of washer hose, since what I bought earlier was not enough. This is what it means to blindly trust unfounded advice from the Internet. Trust, but verify - golden words. Let's move on.
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Drop it off at AvtoVAZ
What diameter did they say it had? I put it in a Toyota and it keeps falling out, I need something thicker
Hose diameter 5.5 mm.
You can try a slingshot tourniquet with Ali
Yes, you need something more flexible than a hose, since over time it no longer holds its shape.
Author, well done, the right approach, nothing superfluous, everything is clear and precise, I’ll do the same)
As I understand it, the rattling only occurs where the oars are located. and where there is ESP, then there is no glass rattling. because my rear ones only rattle on rough roads, but the front ones don’t, it’s quiet
In general, yes. Manually operated windows tend to spontaneously lower by 1-2 cm while driving. That's when the rattling begins. If the glass is completely closed it does not rattle.
I saw it from someone, I don’t remember who now! We installed the antenna cable, it is denser and has a larger diameter! This weekend I’ll try to install it myself, if anyone is interested, I can write about the result
You need to install something more elastic.
You can place the hoses only on the sides of the glass, the same effect. three and a half meters of tube, even smaller.
In what sense on the sides, in the vertical part which is near the B pillar?
I went to the car market, like)
Great. The result is good. Thank you for your attention.
Thank you for the video
Doesn't the glass rattle on the viburnum? Can't you put seals on it? The doors seem to be the same.
They also make noise on the viburnum. On old viburnums, the lower velvet was different. She walked onto the glass. Maybe this somehow compensated for the rattling. And so, the glass seals are also “improved” so that the windows do not rattle.
we buy and finish, buy and finish, what a bitch, this VAZ car doesn’t take us for people
They “educate” new designers for AVTOVAZ :))
And then once a year they (the hoses) have to be changed. They sag and the same thing begins from what they left.
@Avtoremont LADA Thank you for your prompt response. I already went to the store and bought these tubes (hoses). All that remains is to install. )))
@TheLedi43 Easy to pull out :))
@LADA Auto Repair How difficult will it be to get them out later? Otherwise, I’ve already sharpened my skis and run to the store to get hoses. ))))
Yes, you are right - this is a temporary solution. You need to install something more elastic.
This payment method didn’t help my Grant, but thanks anyway.
As I understand it, “payment method” is simply a typo. In fact, you need to insert something more elastic instead of the hose so that the glass is pressed. But in general, this is a design flaw of VAZ
Clear, detailed, exactly what I was looking for. HANDSOME GUY.
I installed a washer hose a year ago, to be honest, the effect is almost zero, I think this procedure is useful, but I probably need to find a thicker and tighter hose.
@BARMALEY BEARDED. from an enema, but to install AvtoVAZ.
@Maxim Tsibizov From an enema.